What year if any do Canadian model headers not have a cat in them?
#3
12-23-2010, 01:58 PM
Tourer
Actually, I don't think the '09s had cats. '10s and '11s only. I was going to purchase some dealer take-offs so I had the dealer check for the catless version and they came up with a set off an '09. May not be true for all versions (e.g., CVOs, Dynas, etc.) but the pipes they offered me were definately '09s.
BTW they wanted 1/2 of the new price for the take-offs. Or translated to cash - approximately $600 CDN. I can think of a better place for the dealer to mount their $600 take-offs (Hint - The sun doesn't shine there.).
BTW they wanted 1/2 of the new price for the take-offs. Or translated to cash - approximately $600 CDN. I can think of a better place for the dealer to mount their $600 take-offs (Hint - The sun doesn't shine there.).
#4
12-23-2010, 03:06 PM
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#5
12-23-2010, 03:17 PM
Supporter
Actually, I don't think the '09s had cats. '10s and '11s only. I was going to purchase some dealer take-offs so I had the dealer check for the catless version and they came up with a set off an '09. May not be true for all versions (e.g., CVOs, Dynas, etc.) but the pipes they offered me were definately '09s.
BTW they wanted 1/2 of the new price for the take-offs. Or translated to cash - approximately $600 CDN. I can think of a better place for the dealer to mount their $600 take-offs (Hint - The sun doesn't shine there.).
BTW they wanted 1/2 of the new price for the take-offs. Or translated to cash - approximately $600 CDN. I can think of a better place for the dealer to mount their $600 take-offs (Hint - The sun doesn't shine there.).
#7
12-23-2010, 04:23 PM
from the '09 manual......
CATALYTIC CONVERTER: TOURING MODELS
Touring motorcycles manufactured for international and California markets have a catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe collector
and they have been in every model since then. i suppose it's possible that a non international non california headpipe got put on a bike that was destined for catalytic converter land but somewhat unlikely....
CATALYTIC CONVERTER: TOURING MODELS
Touring motorcycles manufactured for international and California markets have a catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe collector
and they have been in every model since then. i suppose it's possible that a non international non california headpipe got put on a bike that was destined for catalytic converter land but somewhat unlikely....
Last edited by davewear; 12-23-2010 at 04:31 PM.
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#8
12-23-2010, 04:59 PM
Tourer
The easy way to visually tell if a pipe has cats or not is to look at the O2 sensor location. If the sensor is close to the heads - no cats! Cat head pipes required the O2 sensor to be located after the cat which is located where the pipes join on touring models.
BTW the H-D "international" designation isn't conclusive. Our lighting requirements (Signals, brakes, headlights, etc.) in Canada are the same as the U.S. so we are not considered "International". Where lighting is concerned, European countries (for example) are International - they need different lighting.
BTW the H-D "international" designation isn't conclusive. Our lighting requirements (Signals, brakes, headlights, etc.) in Canada are the same as the U.S. so we are not considered "International". Where lighting is concerned, European countries (for example) are International - they need different lighting.
#9
12-23-2010, 05:48 PM
The easy way to visually tell if a pipe has cats or not is to look at the O2 sensor location. If the sensor is close to the heads - no cats! Cat head pipes required the O2 sensor to be located after the cat which is located where the pipes join on touring models.
BTW the H-D "international" designation isn't conclusive. Our lighting requirements (Signals, brakes, headlights, etc.) in Canada are the same as the U.S. so we are not considered "International". Where lighting is concerned, European countries (for example) are International - they need different lighting.
BTW the H-D "international" designation isn't conclusive. Our lighting requirements (Signals, brakes, headlights, etc.) in Canada are the same as the U.S. so we are not considered "International". Where lighting is concerned, European countries (for example) are International - they need different lighting.
my 02 sensors are up near the heads, soooo, hmmmmm......
Last edited by davewear; 12-23-2010 at 05:52 PM.
#10
12-23-2010, 05:56 PM
The easy way to visually tell if a pipe has cats or not is to look at the O2 sensor location. If the sensor is close to the heads - no cats! Cat head pipes required the O2 sensor to be located after the cat which is located where the pipes join on touring models.
BTW the H-D "international" designation isn't conclusive. Our lighting requirements (Signals, brakes, headlights, etc.) in Canada are the same as the U.S. so we are not considered "International". Where lighting is concerned, European countries (for example) are International - they need different lighting.
BTW the H-D "international" designation isn't conclusive. Our lighting requirements (Signals, brakes, headlights, etc.) in Canada are the same as the U.S. so we are not considered "International". Where lighting is concerned, European countries (for example) are International - they need different lighting.