Maybe Someone Can Explain This To Me, I Don't Get It...
#11
The only possible explanation I can think of is that the local dealer feels they won't increase their volume or expand their customer base significantly if they offer a discount, at least not enough to make up for a 20% revenue loss, and that those of us doing business with them locally will buy anyway. I will grant you that the online discounters are bringing in business they wouldnt normally get by expanding their market nationally. I wonder if you walked in to a Zanottis or Surdyke if you would get the same pricing over the counter as you would online.
#12
The standard markup for the dealers is 40% (t-shirts are a LOT more). Who knows what it is for the MOCO itself.
I called Chicago Harley last week to ask why they dropped their 20% to 10% and was told that it was because they needed to increase their profits and they would likely take it back up in the spring. I figured it was the old Christmas markup gimmick.
I understand you have to keep the doors open but I think they can afford to drop the price a bit, especially for good customers. Most places give military, police and firefighters 15% without batting an eye.
I called Chicago Harley last week to ask why they dropped their 20% to 10% and was told that it was because they needed to increase their profits and they would likely take it back up in the spring. I figured it was the old Christmas markup gimmick.
I understand you have to keep the doors open but I think they can afford to drop the price a bit, especially for good customers. Most places give military, police and firefighters 15% without batting an eye.
#13
Missed the point
The dealer is counting on the fact you can't re-work a part to make it work. And face facts, almost nothing in the aftermarket custom parts world fits right without fiddling with it. If you can bend, drill, grind, and think like a mechanic, then go for the discount parts. If not then you'll have to pay to play!
#15
#16
I buy a lot of just in time parts from my dealer. Battery, gaskets, screws etc. I buy most of my accessories and big stuff from Lakeshore or other online aftermarket stores. 20% and free shipping if I spend enough. I have to plan ahead though. It takes a couple of weeks for the parts to get to me. I have saved hundreds of dollars this way. I haven't ever had to modify aftermarket parts to make them fit or work. I would love to give the business to my local dealer. They won't even match the tire deal from the dealer 15 miles away. A buddy tried to get them to match an online deal on a chrome front end and they would get the install labor and the just went on and on how he would get ripped off by those ebay guys.
#17
#18
My dealer explained to me a while back that he feels dealers should all be loyal to what HD lists as the msrp. Now at the time we were talking bike prices. He explained that he wont drop below msrp, although he quite often does drop freight and prep. On the other hand, he said on a rare or limited bike, he will never jack up the msrp. Like Bruce Rossmeyer in Fla. Saw my same bike on the floor with a price tag 11,000 bucks above msrp.
#19
I have to agree with the original post.
It is unbelievable what difference there is between the "local" prices and what one pays for the part on line. Even with paying the exorbitant shipping fees - it's still 30% cheaper.
Why? For some reason; which I don't understand, our local Stealership believes LOYALTY is a "one way street". Because we are "Harley owners" we are to support the local Stealership - regardless of what "his" price is. I know business, business plans and what a shop needs to make to stay afloat. I also know price gouging and excessive profit margins.
When asked about a 10% discount on a major purchase (for me) $600; I'm told the price you see is the price you pay. So much for loyalty......
Ride In Peace
It is unbelievable what difference there is between the "local" prices and what one pays for the part on line. Even with paying the exorbitant shipping fees - it's still 30% cheaper.
Why? For some reason; which I don't understand, our local Stealership believes LOYALTY is a "one way street". Because we are "Harley owners" we are to support the local Stealership - regardless of what "his" price is. I know business, business plans and what a shop needs to make to stay afloat. I also know price gouging and excessive profit margins.
When asked about a 10% discount on a major purchase (for me) $600; I'm told the price you see is the price you pay. So much for loyalty......
Ride In Peace
#20
I guess I do support the local guy....me.