I had a salesman tell me the 10's came with a 200 rear tire ~ it is a 180. I knew it was a 180 ~ the tire said 180 on the side ~ but he still went on ~ I just shook my head and bought elsewhere....

 

The 103 has ACRs for sure.

Also SE compensator for sure.

I do not know if the 96 has the SE comp. Anyone know this????

 

MKguitar:
What did you think of the 110 CVO?
I have an Ultra Classic that I had the 103BB done to and added the SE 255 cams and it is just about perfect.
Question is I am moving up to a CVO 110 in Feb and want to make sure that I am doing the right thing. I am not doing it for the power I am mostly doing it for th bling and a better starting point for mods.
Alot of $ but plan to make it my last bike.
Thanks

 

No, the 103 power pak doesn't come with cams....still think it's a good deal when you consider what you are getting for little extra money.

 

You are probably going to want to upgrade to the 103 at some point in the future so why not save a ton of money up front and get it fresh from the factory? You can always upgrade to stage II or stage III for a lot less without having to do the big bore kit.
I just spent $2,300 to upgrade to a 103 stage II kit, and I now have about 25% more horsepower and torque than the 96" stage I set up...

 

All of the 2011 touring models have the SE compensator installed as factory equipment.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/g...bmLocale=en_US

 

You are only paying $800 dollars for the 103 option w/compression releases, when you take out the cost of the ABS/Security package. You also have to consider labor. However if you were to buy the 103" Big Bore Stage II ($899.95), which includes the 255 cams, dealer installed at that time you buy, and work out a deal on the labor, that may work for you.

Harley-Davidson PowerPak Features:
• The Twin Cam 103 is rated at 102 ft. lbs. of torque at 3500 rpm, a 9.6-percent increase in peak torque over the Twin Cam 96 engine it replaces, extra power for enhanced passing and hill-climbing performance when a passenger and luggage are on board.
• Harley-Davidson's Touring ABS works in conjunction with high-performance Brembo brakes to help the rider maintain control during braking events, especially those that happen in less-than-optimal conditions.
• The components of the Harley-Davidson ABS are tucked away, preserving the uncluttered styling of the area around the wheels. Harley-Davidson's ABS is not a linked system, meaning the rider maintains full, independent control of both front and rear brakes.
• The H-D Smart Security System offers automatic self-arming and disarming through the Hands Free Fob, which communicates directly with the security module on an individualized frequency.
• When the rider switches off the ignition and leaves the proximity of the motorcycle, Smart Security System disables the vehicle starter, ignition and electronic fuel injection (EFI).
• Any Touring model not equipped with PowerPak may be ordered with ABS and the H-D Smart Security System bundled together as a single factory-installed option. These items will no longer be offered as separate options.
Below are the engine differences between the 96ci and the new 103ci.
Like the standard Twin Cam 96, the PowerPak Twin Cam 103 uses traditional pushrod-operated, overhead valves with hydraulic, self-adjusting lifters, two valves per cylinder and Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection.
Bore x Stroke
3.75 in. x 4.38 in. (95 mm x 111 mm) vs. 3.875 in. x 4.38 in. (98 mm x 111 mm)
Displacement
96 cu. in. (1584 cc) vs. 103 cu. in. (1690 cc)
Compression Ratio
9.2:1 vs. 9.6:1
Lubrication System
Pressurized, Dry-Sump vs. Pressurized, Dry-Sump with Oil Cooler
Engine Torque
92.6 ft. lbs. @ 3500 RPM vs. 102 ft. lbs. @ 3500 RPM

Above info. from http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...m-powerpak-103

 

According to my 2011 parts manual the 103 also has a different clutch spring.

 

That torque number is not remotely close to what a stock PowerPak 103" puts out. Try in the neighborhood of 80-85 lbs.

 

those are at the crank #'s and considering ~15% loss at drive train, pretty close to what I have seen ie 85-87 tq stock. Stage 1 close to 90 or so.