Great Mysteries of the Harley Davidson Warranty
#21
Look up the "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act"
It is a Federal Warrenty law that applies to ALL states. It states very clearly that any warrenty can ONLY be denied if PROVEN that what you added CAUSED the problem needing repair.
SO...If you change a cam, and your Tranny goes out...its still covered.
Your add ons to the bike will NOT automaticlly void your warrenty, UNLESS what you do is clearly defined in the actual warrenty documentation. In HDs case, towing a trailer will void the warrenty because its clearly stated. Using non-harley Oil...will not void anything unless it can be proven that the oil caused the repair issue.
This discussion has been going on forever on this site, due to dealers trying to scare people away from doing thier own work. Search the site for more info.
It is a Federal Warrenty law that applies to ALL states. It states very clearly that any warrenty can ONLY be denied if PROVEN that what you added CAUSED the problem needing repair.
SO...If you change a cam, and your Tranny goes out...its still covered.
Your add ons to the bike will NOT automaticlly void your warrenty, UNLESS what you do is clearly defined in the actual warrenty documentation. In HDs case, towing a trailer will void the warrenty because its clearly stated. Using non-harley Oil...will not void anything unless it can be proven that the oil caused the repair issue.
This discussion has been going on forever on this site, due to dealers trying to scare people away from doing thier own work. Search the site for more info.
#22
My dealer when I checked into paying the difference for the SE Comp upgrade said bring it in and they would probably do it BUT "it will void warranty (extended) on other parts in there." I will be having them do it but I laughed about how far "in there" was. Primary, tranny, crank, all??
#23
Look up the "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act"
It is a Federal Warrenty law that applies to ALL states. It states very clearly that any warrenty can ONLY be denied if PROVEN that what you added CAUSED the problem needing repair.
SO...If you change a cam, and your Tranny goes out...its still covered.
It is a Federal Warrenty law that applies to ALL states. It states very clearly that any warrenty can ONLY be denied if PROVEN that what you added CAUSED the problem needing repair.
SO...If you change a cam, and your Tranny goes out...its still covered.
If you change your cam and your transmission goes out, you won't find anyone to cover you. Your transmission is designed to operate at the power levels the stock engine makes. By increasing the output, you've run the transmission outside its design parameters and caused the failure.
You can huff and puff to the dealer about this, and you can threaten to get a lawyer, but you'll lose.
Your add ons to the bike will NOT automaticlly void your warrenty, UNLESS what you do is clearly defined in the actual warrenty documentation. In HDs case, towing a trailer will void the warrenty because its clearly stated. Using non-harley Oil...will not void anything unless it can be proven that the oil caused the repair issue.
Installing a cam will not void the warranty on the stereo any more than towing a trailer will.
#24
I don't give a crap about warranty. I buy what I can afford, do what I want with my machine and take responsibility for the consequences.
And for the umpteenth millionth time, the term VOID is wrong! Void stands for 100% no coverage. You may install something that does cause a problem and your warranty claim will be DENIED. Your entire warranty will not be voided!
And for the umpteenth millionth time, the term VOID is wrong! Void stands for 100% no coverage. You may install something that does cause a problem and your warranty claim will be DENIED. Your entire warranty will not be voided!
#25
#26
Didn't want to open this can O worms, but , the MM act doesn't do much unless you want to spend a boat load of cash on lawyers to defend you....
I had my 03 stolen in June , I found another one in Florida, at Seminole HD, they said they looked it over,(they have done all the service and upgrades) well they sold me a warranty, the bike had 211 cams in it, rode it home to Indianapolis, and maybe 500 after that , and the stock tensioners took out the inner cam bearing, oil pump rear jug, even seized the pins in the rocker plates.
I took it to my dealer, when the oil pressure was only about 20 pounds, and didn't seem right.
They pulled the motor apart, and told me it was junk , the warranty company denied the claim because it had SE heads, and 211 cams in it, the bill was around $7000.00, I called Harley customer service, and told them the deal , and they ended up buying me a STREET LEGAL reman motor,but I had to pay to have it installed, and I still have a warranty, so it all worked out kind of. My dealer went to bat for me with the warranty company, and really jumped on them telling them that the cams or heads didn't have anything to do with the failure, but they wouldn't budge....Harley Extended is not Harley Davidson , they sold the name to a company that sells ,and services warranties.
In short , if you have something bad happen , they will send an adjuster, and the dealer can't do much about it.
I had my 03 stolen in June , I found another one in Florida, at Seminole HD, they said they looked it over,(they have done all the service and upgrades) well they sold me a warranty, the bike had 211 cams in it, rode it home to Indianapolis, and maybe 500 after that , and the stock tensioners took out the inner cam bearing, oil pump rear jug, even seized the pins in the rocker plates.
I took it to my dealer, when the oil pressure was only about 20 pounds, and didn't seem right.
They pulled the motor apart, and told me it was junk , the warranty company denied the claim because it had SE heads, and 211 cams in it, the bill was around $7000.00, I called Harley customer service, and told them the deal , and they ended up buying me a STREET LEGAL reman motor,but I had to pay to have it installed, and I still have a warranty, so it all worked out kind of. My dealer went to bat for me with the warranty company, and really jumped on them telling them that the cams or heads didn't have anything to do with the failure, but they wouldn't budge....Harley Extended is not Harley Davidson , they sold the name to a company that sells ,and services warranties.
In short , if you have something bad happen , they will send an adjuster, and the dealer can't do much about it.
Look up the "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act"
It is a Federal Warrenty law that applies to ALL states. It states very clearly that any warrenty can ONLY be denied if PROVEN that what you added CAUSED the problem needing repair.
SO...If you change a cam, and your Tranny goes out...its still covered.
Your add ons to the bike will NOT automaticlly void your warrenty, UNLESS what you do is clearly defined in the actual warrenty documentation. In HDs case, towing a trailer will void the warrenty because its clearly stated. Using non-harley Oil...will not void anything unless it can be proven that the oil caused the repair issue.
This discussion has been going on forever on this site, due to dealers trying to scare people away from doing thier own work. Search the site for more info.
It is a Federal Warrenty law that applies to ALL states. It states very clearly that any warrenty can ONLY be denied if PROVEN that what you added CAUSED the problem needing repair.
SO...If you change a cam, and your Tranny goes out...its still covered.
Your add ons to the bike will NOT automaticlly void your warrenty, UNLESS what you do is clearly defined in the actual warrenty documentation. In HDs case, towing a trailer will void the warrenty because its clearly stated. Using non-harley Oil...will not void anything unless it can be proven that the oil caused the repair issue.
This discussion has been going on forever on this site, due to dealers trying to scare people away from doing thier own work. Search the site for more info.
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