My fatboy was great with canned map and stage 1.....but on my limited the canned map that came with my tw6-6's was not very good.....had it dyno tuned and it improved significantly........when I went to the se255s I dyno tuned right off the bat...I don't think it could run better.....love it...

 

What he said. A set of 255's will liven that thing up considerable. The get it dyno tuned. A cheap mod and a large bang for the buck.

 

Kind've what I was thinking. Trying to scare people into buying the TTS maybe?

 

My dyno was worth every penny. My canned dealer map ran OK but was popping on decell. My rear cylinder was also very lean. Now it runs great and I got another 10 hp out of it.

 

Disclaimer: I know very little about tuning, tuning terms, AF ratios, etc. which is why I'm here. Please forgive me if I sound like a complete idiot. Now, onto the business at hand.

When I spoke with Doc, he told me that he will not do a tune with a SE tuner since TTS stopped making them because the settings on the new units will cause the engines to burn oil and pre-programmed AF limitations in the unit will not allow for an optimum tune. He also threw out some other technical mumbo jumbo that flew right over my head. However, given his stellar reputation amongst the members here and other places, combined with his resume, I took his word for it.

One more step I did take was to call the Harley dealership near his shop because he told me that they use him for their dyno tuning. I was curious as to why the Harley dealership would allow him to tune with non Harley tuners and, much to my surprise, the service manager there confirmed what Doc told me and also told me that SE tuners were not good for the bikes (didn't specify years, just said they weren't good).

 

If SERT was burning up 09 bikes,.... there would be threads all over this board complaining about it. This thread is the VERY first mention of it, that I have seen.
And even that mention was second hand (not having actually experienced the 09 problem).

I understand that there are some riders out there that don't post here (LOL) but it still seems the odds are in favor of somebody here having an issue with it, if it was much of a problem.

Also, did you say "newer style" sert? Maybe yours isn't even one of those.

I'd do more research, before forking out bucks on a new unit. Maybe there is something to it. Need more info from more sources. Homework time.

 

I have heard a few guys say that some tuners dont like the super tuner and wont use it. Something about it locking up their computer. So far the software is working pretty good on my laptop. Never heard of it blowing up a bike. I think I would have heard about it since I am in the middle of tuning my bike with the sepst and have searched just about all info I can about it.

 

Yes, I heard the same from my tuner. He said that he has problems locking up the PC they display the charts on. In fact he took an entire day and a half to get my tune done because he had to keep starting over when the PC would lock up. He finally got through the process without a lock up. BTW, he still only charged me for 3 1/2 hours labor.

 

Perhaps using the term "burning up" was a mistake on my part. I definitely do not want to put words in people's mouths. He never specifically stated that the bike would leave the tuner and immediately die, only that the SERT is not a good tuning tool and can cause mechanical problems and/or failures. He did also mention the problem of the SERT locking up the computer and causing a tune to take much longer than it should.

 

jpalm, I don't know if Doc mentioned to you but you can send your SERT out to TTS and they will upgrade it for you. That's what I did and then had it tuned. Good luck

http://www.mastertune.net/SERTUpgrade.html