Went to the Darkside(car tire)today
#971
07-13-2012, 08:57 AM
I was just kidding around with you, When everything is covered with snow and its below zero up here I envy the hell out of you being in Tyler!!
#972
07-13-2012, 11:39 AM
Since you are running car tires cant you just get snow treads, or studs, or just chain up?
I had to say it...Sorry.
#973
07-13-2012, 12:36 PM
I guess I'll take it.
1.) Cruiser lean angles are much less than crotch rockets.
2.) Cruiser rear loads are heavier, allowing flexion of the tire to increase bite.
3.) The CT keeps looking like a CT, and stopping like one, fast and hard.
4.) CT on the front would create boxy handling, but it has been done for years.
5.) The CT has better braking in ALL situations, especially on the wet stuff. More
bite, softer rubber, better water dispersion. Period.
1.) Cruiser lean angles are much less than crotch rockets.
2.) Cruiser rear loads are heavier, allowing flexion of the tire to increase bite.
3.) The CT keeps looking like a CT, and stopping like one, fast and hard.
4.) CT on the front would create boxy handling, but it has been done for years.
5.) The CT has better braking in ALL situations, especially on the wet stuff. More
bite, softer rubber, better water dispersion. Period.
We all make our own decisions , this is one Ill stay away from. Best of luck to the "Darksider" riders and I hope it is a wise choice for you.
Last edited by XARAN; 07-13-2012 at 12:38 PM.
#974
07-13-2012, 01:35 PM
Ive been watching and reading these "Darkside" threads for a long time. I ride a lot of canyon roads with big drop offs and narrow corners, if you make a mistake or have a failure it may well be your last! I was pretty sure that Id never try it, IMO not worth the chance with only 2 wheels holding me up and after looking at this picture of that rear tire up on its edge Im convinced that its not for me.
We all make our own decisions , this is one Ill stay away from. Best of luck to the "Darksider" riders and I hope it is a wise choice for you.
We all make our own decisions , this is one Ill stay away from. Best of luck to the "Darksider" riders and I hope it is a wise choice for you.
#975
07-13-2012, 03:11 PM
I ride with a guy who went to the dark side for awhile...he saw the light and stepped back into reality. Turns out they don't corner so well. Absolute mistake to put a car tire on a motorcycle...just hope you aren't one to want to sue if it blows. Sidewalls on car tires are not designed to cope with the constant leaning that is done on a motorcycle which causes stresses the tire wasn't designed for. I confirmed all of this with a Michelin engineer friend the first time I heard about this.
And they say the side walls are not as strong so when you hit those pot holes that loosen your fillings you may also damage a rim. Just not worth saving a few bucks. M.O.
#976
07-13-2012, 07:25 PM
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Also, like a deflated tire, the contact patch may be large, but the actual, usable contact may be diminished.
Seems to me the cruisers are too slow, too light and can't lean far enough to really show the disadvantages of a CT. But it on a 600 or a liter bike and it's a ridiculous notion.
#977
07-13-2012, 07:55 PM
There are some differences however. The MC tire is designed for bumps and holes at that angle, the CT is not. Not saying that is a negative, but what is doesn't have is a similar tread pattern and how much non/minimal tread on the sidewall is in contact.
Also, like a deflated tire, the contact patch may be large, but the actual, usable contact may be diminished.
Seems to me the cruisers are too slow, too light and can't lean far enough to really show the disadvantages of a CT. But it on a 600 or a liter bike and it's a ridiculous notion.
Also, like a deflated tire, the contact patch may be large, but the actual, usable contact may be diminished.
Seems to me the cruisers are too slow, too light and can't lean far enough to really show the disadvantages of a CT. But it on a 600 or a liter bike and it's a ridiculous notion.
#978
07-14-2012, 02:06 AM
Just the opposite sir, at least for anyone I know who rides more than twice a week (not counting weekends). My MC tires have always started out looking like MC tires and have always ended up looking like car tires. How else would I know when it was time to replace them????
Even my VFR wound up squared off. I'm not proud of it, but damn, my ride back and forth to work has always been PRETTY MUCH in straight lines.
#979
07-14-2012, 02:16 AM
#980
07-14-2012, 07:32 AM
I guess I'll take it.
1.) Cruiser lean angles are much less than crotch rockets.
2.) Cruiser rear loads are heavier, allowing flexion of the tire to increase bite.
3.) The CT keeps looking like a CT, and stopping like one, fast and hard.
4.) CT on the front would create boxy handling, but it has been done for years.
5.) The CT has better braking in ALL situations, especially on the wet stuff. More
bite, softer rubber, better water dispersion. Period.
1.) Cruiser lean angles are much less than crotch rockets.
2.) Cruiser rear loads are heavier, allowing flexion of the tire to increase bite.
3.) The CT keeps looking like a CT, and stopping like one, fast and hard.
4.) CT on the front would create boxy handling, but it has been done for years.
5.) The CT has better braking in ALL situations, especially on the wet stuff. More
bite, softer rubber, better water dispersion. Period.
You're going to poke your eye out!!! You watch, You'll be sorry!!!
I'm looking into doing this. Let me see if I have this right.
It looks like for my 04 RK my choice is the Austone only. Right?
What I'm hearing is for that vintage you need to clearance the belt?
And if the belt is too wide you can get a narrower 1" belt but you must also change to a narrower pulley that is spaced out accordingly.
Am I right so far?
Are there any issues using lace wheels?
Thoughts on putting that Austone on a Sportster. Too light?