Originally Posted by mtclassic

I have run into a slight glitch with running the train wheel. It seems with the price of steel going up so high that they cost prohibitive at this time.

Originally Posted by coolerman69

You can plug um

Originally Posted by coolerman69

I have a couple i'll sell cheap! They didn't work out for me.

Originally Posted by mtclassic

I can plug my tubeless motorcycle tires too (I know I can because I have) and if you don't have tubless style rims you still have to run a tube in a car tire. Is there any other valid reason they are easier to fix?

Originally Posted by mtclassic

I imagine shipping is going to be a killer.

Originally Posted by cptdenny

Handling isn't confined to only curve carving. If it were we chose the wrong brand of motorcycles for that. Handling includes, braking, wet weather handling, acceleration, contact patch, riding over gravel, load bearing.

I don't ride the superslabs much, spend most of my time on back roads with lots of curves and turn in them. I really enjoy my electraglide on these roads even though I don't ride like a racer of any sort.

Wet weather handling, I have to argue this also, flatter profile, not the same weight per square inch due to lighter vehicle, less weight per square inch to help force or push water out of the treads, greater probability of hydroplaning. Motorcycle tires have a lot less contact patch on the road giving them the ability to cut through the wet stuff better.

Gravel, well I don't ride gravel so I have nothing to add.

Braking, well I watched a guy lock up the brakes on his trike with car tires, they locked up pretty quick. I don't have a problem braking personally, I know the concept of threshold braking and use both my front and rear brakes for hard braking. For normal easy braking, I don't even touch my rear brakes.

You naysayers only argument is stuck on carving curves. Our Harleys aren't sport bikes/crotch rockets. However I provided a video of a Kawasaki Ninja carving a corner using a car tire mounted on the rear. The Kawi without a doubt while using a car tire can out corner any street Harley with a motorcycle tire mounted. At best your only argument is a weak one.

I've had at least 3 motorcycle tires that had a complete failure over the years. One front tire was brand new with less than 150 miles on it, mounted on a Gold Wing 1500.

Car tires that we use usually mount on our bikes costs about the same as a motorcycle tire if you stay away from stealerships prices. We save money on longevity and labor costs over the life of a car tire. Car tires are easier to repair than a mc tire. There are car tires that use run-flat technologies which are light years ahead of mc tires. That may not sound so important till you find yourself with a flat in a heavy neighborhood or on a Alaskian road far from civilization.

I have plugged motorcycle tires over the year with absolutly no problems. They are no harder to repair then a car tire.

If you're concern is about a lack of a rounded edge on a certain brand of car tire, then take it in to have the tire shaved at the corners and have it rounded.

The car tires available for later model years Harleys have more of a rounded edge to begin with.

If I had a choice between a car tire or mc tire for a trip to Alaska on my Harley, I wouldn't even entertain the thought of using a mc tire unless I had a chase vehicle with spare tires and mounting equipment.

Car tires on motorcycles makes sense if you ride over 15K miles a year. If you ride less, then a mc tire will serve you well.

Those that ask for proof, the VIDEO proof has been provided. If you're waiting for written reports you'll have a long wait till company accountants can figure out how to replace their profit losses. Think about it.

I have seen lots of videos, I have seen the transition in curves on some vids were the tire was inflated to proper levels. On other vids were you could not see the transition then the tire was under inflated and actually started to fold over slightly

If a tire company can create a tire for the rare Buggati Veyron top speed of over 250 mph, it should be a no brainer creating a car-like tire for our tourers. The answer lies in profit motive.

Originally Posted by Rat1

Car tires have no were near the side wall construction as motorcycle tires. They are very easily punctured at the sidewalls. Motorcycle tires tend to handle sidewall hits much better with less fear of failure due to the sidewall construction of a motorcycle tire.

Short story.

We had a guy come into our shop, he had just had 4 new tires installed but the tire store told him he needed struts etc on the car. He got a quote for the struts then came to us and got a quote. Needless to say our quote to just install the struts was less then the tire shop. Our tech installed the struts just throwing them on, knowing the car had to go get an alignment anyway. So he left the shop with too much positive camber and took it to the alignment shop a mile down the road. the tire and alignment shop see this and told our tech that he could have ruined the new tires. They pulled one of the new tires and broke the bead and the tire was starting to flake slightly in the sidewall area. Lots of rubber floating around in the tire. Mind you these were new Good year tires with only a couple miles on them. We ended up buying the guy two new front tires.

Originally Posted by Rat1

Car tires have no were near the side wall construction as motorcycle tires. They are very easily punctured at the sidewalls. Motorcycle tires tend to handle sidewall hits much better with less fear of failure due to the sidewall construction of a motorcycle tire.

Short story.

We had a guy come into our shop, he had just had 4 new tires installed but the tire store told him he needed struts etc on the car. He got a quote for the struts then came to us and got a quote. Needless to say our quote to just install the struts was less then the tire shop. Our tech installed the struts just throwing them on, knowing the car had to go get an alignment anyway. So he left the shop with too much positive camber and took it to the alignment shop a mile down the road. the tire and alignment shop see this and told our tech that he could have ruined the new tires. They pulled one of the new tires and broke the bead and the tire was starting to flake slightly in the sidewall area. Lots of rubber floating around in the tire. Mind you these were new Good year tires with only a couple miles on them. We ended up buying the guy two new front tires.

Originally Posted by cptdenny

Under the above scenario are you saying the guy would have faired better if he installed mc tires on his car?

All joking aside. Side walls on car tires are much stronger and thicker than mc side walls. It's an illusion that you see, since the car tire has a much larger side wall profile than a rounded mc tire does. I've heard of bullet proof car tires but never heard of bullet proof mc tires. I wonder why?

I remember trying to shoot with a .22 cal rifle at inflated car tires on a wrecked car at a dump when I was younger and less wise. Those bullets NEVER penetrated the tires, they would bounce off and then watch out.