Went to the Darkside(car tire)today
#1051
09-02-2012, 01:56 PM
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I am considering giving this a try on my 01 Road King which may be difficult with a slimmer tread but hoping someone can help. The stock tire is a MT 90 16 so can anyone translate that to a decent "Dark Side" tire?
Buddy and I stopped at a dealership yesterday and I noticed a bike that looked like the rear pressure was low. Told the guy and he said look at the back of the tire and sho nuf it was a car tire and he swore by it. Said he ran 40 pounds of pressure and could not say enough about how well it handled in all conditions except riding slow on a grated bridge.
Buddy and I stopped at a dealership yesterday and I noticed a bike that looked like the rear pressure was low. Told the guy and he said look at the back of the tire and sho nuf it was a car tire and he swore by it. Said he ran 40 pounds of pressure and could not say enough about how well it handled in all conditions except riding slow on a grated bridge.
#1052
09-02-2012, 08:04 PM
Here is the only car tire I know of that will fit your bike....
https://www.universaltire.com/dunlop...axi-black.html
https://www.universaltire.com/dunlop...axi-black.html
#1054
09-02-2012, 09:22 PM
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#1055
09-02-2012, 09:49 PM
I am considering giving this a try on my 01 Road King which may be difficult with a slimmer tread but hoping someone can help. The stock tire is a MT 90 16 so can anyone translate that to a decent "Dark Side" tire?
Buddy and I stopped at a dealership yesterday and I noticed a bike that looked like the rear pressure was low. Told the guy and he said look at the back of the tire and sho nuf it was a car tire and he swore by it. Said he ran 40 pounds of pressure and could not say enough about how well it handled in all conditions except riding slow on a grated bridge.
Buddy and I stopped at a dealership yesterday and I noticed a bike that looked like the rear pressure was low. Told the guy and he said look at the back of the tire and sho nuf it was a car tire and he swore by it. Said he ran 40 pounds of pressure and could not say enough about how well it handled in all conditions except riding slow on a grated bridge.
#1056
09-02-2012, 11:30 PM
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#1057
09-03-2012, 06:46 AM
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I then chalked the edge of the tire equal to what was left on my previous pictures, and stood the tire on edge just to the point of the chalk hitting the pavement.
Look at that "great motorcycle tire contact patch!" Not much there, is there. Incidently, Harley specs say the maximum lean angle on an Ultra is 30-32 degrees.
Look at that "great motorcycle tire contact patch!" Not much there, is there. Incidently, Harley specs say the maximum lean angle on an Ultra is 30-32 degrees.
There's no weight on that tire. Take a pic of a car tire leaning against your garage door frame and compare.
#1058
09-03-2012, 01:14 PM
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I don't understand why people keep saying the bikes run on the sidewall. That is not physically possible. The sidewall never touches the ground, the floorboard or bags would hit long before the sidewall touches the ground. I don't care what the know it alls have to say about it. The bike never rides on the sidewall. The tire would have to be all most out of air for the sidewall to touch the ground, no one I know rides on a flat tire. You can lay a bike down on its side and at no time will the sidewall touch the ground.
I then chalked the edge of the tire equal to what was left on my previous pictures, and stood the tire on edge just to the point of the chalk hitting the pavement.
Look at that "great motorcycle tire contact patch!" Not much there, is there. Incidently, Harley specs say the maximum lean angle on an Ultra is 30-32 degrees.
Look at that "great motorcycle tire contact patch!" Not much there, is there. Incidently, Harley specs say the maximum lean angle on an Ultra is 30-32 degrees.
Journalistic integrity. Or they end up showing it's only valid for cruisers/tourers.
#1059
09-03-2012, 05:25 PM
M/T are so rigid I suspect it would take a lot of weight to make much of a difference in the contact patch. A C/T however will flex easier and create a larger patch.
#1060
09-05-2012, 09:28 AM
If not so serious a subject, it would be laughable that as soon as it's suggested that a person find out ..... from an authority on the subject ...... be it an ap eng, racing teams, or safety engineers (DOT) ..... you "just do it" guys go running off about it causing threads to be too long (???), after 'you' quoting and providing 'exactly' the same type of ..... "the cousin of a fellow, links to similarly unsubstantiated threads, and so freely use non-impirical (theoretical only) data to establish cause and effect (and other such 'video' nonsense) as proof that it's that it's perfectly OK.
Just provide 'only one' it's "OK to do", from a knowledgeable and 'verified' source, that posses the education, training and a career specifically involved in the subject.
Just one ..... but 'verifiable' as being an authority.
If pressed I can provide a number of sources of same "pedigree" that will say not to do it.
But you ..... "I've been doing it for that past X years" ... 'think' you know better, and try to imply, or even just outright say, "it's all a conspiracy by the tire companies of the world" (who operate in a competative marke) to make us pay more for less performance and longevity.
Your analogy is on par with I never wore a condom, and I don't have aids ..... so it's all good 'and 'the "performance" is better, it feels better, doesn't create a hazardous waste by product, so no worries ... just do it!!
Are you really this naive??
Just provide 'only one' it's "OK to do", from a knowledgeable and 'verified' source, that posses the education, training and a career specifically involved in the subject.
Just one ..... but 'verifiable' as being an authority.
If pressed I can provide a number of sources of same "pedigree" that will say not to do it.
But you ..... "I've been doing it for that past X years" ... 'think' you know better, and try to imply, or even just outright say, "it's all a conspiracy by the tire companies of the world" (who operate in a competative marke) to make us pay more for less performance and longevity.
Your analogy is on par with I never wore a condom, and I don't have aids ..... so it's all good 'and 'the "performance" is better, it feels better, doesn't create a hazardous waste by product, so no worries ... just do it!!
Are you really this naive??
People who talk about slipping and sliding and the like and need a softer compound tire I would submit they are riding way over their heads for the conditions they are in.
They try to repeat on the street the action what they see on a track which by the way is ludicrous in the first place.
I have always run basic tires on a motorcycle and I've put wider tires than what was recommended on everything from Sportsters to ElectraGlides and I have never had one slip out from under me. Please do not bother about how long I've been riding as it has been in excess of 45 years and hundreds of thousands of miles.
Repeating what someone else says with out personal knowledge of the subject is... well bullshit unless you have actual provable real world experience on the subject.
I know I am personally tired of replacing tires twice a year... It just stands to reason the industry could do better on wear but choose not to as it would hurt the bottom line... I do not think for one second they care about my safety one little bit. They sold a bill of goods and people bought it hook line and sinker.