What fluid to put in the primary?
#32
10-08-2010 | 01:51 AM
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Any oil used with a wet clutch should be rated for it.
Any of the synthetics should carry that rating but why would one put Wal-Mart crap in a bike worth 10-25 thousand dollars.
$14.99 for a quart of Amsoil is cheap if you consider how much per mile it actually boils down to.
An Amsoil replacement in all three holes is only $75 bucks.
The dealer gets $390.00 and uses their Syn3 garbage.
Do the math and don't skimp quality to save 2 dollars.
Any of the synthetics should carry that rating but why would one put Wal-Mart crap in a bike worth 10-25 thousand dollars.
$14.99 for a quart of Amsoil is cheap if you consider how much per mile it actually boils down to.
An Amsoil replacement in all three holes is only $75 bucks.
The dealer gets $390.00 and uses their Syn3 garbage.
Do the math and don't skimp quality to save 2 dollars.
#33
10-08-2010 | 03:08 AM
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Wal-Mart crap huh. Well you might be right. However, some of you might find this article useful.
http://www.redlineoil.com/news_article.aspx?id=49
http://www.redlineoil.com/news_article.aspx?id=49
#34
10-08-2010 | 04:49 AM
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I've run Amsoil in the engine...
Redline Heavy Shockproof in the trans...have tried others, but this was the only one that i really noticed any difference...
HD Formula+ in the primary...not sayin its the best...i've read its just 40w oil...but i like the way the clutch feels...tried B&M syn and i felt some clutch chatter...
probly try sumthin different in my Limited
Redline Heavy Shockproof in the trans...have tried others, but this was the only one that i really noticed any difference...
HD Formula+ in the primary...not sayin its the best...i've read its just 40w oil...but i like the way the clutch feels...tried B&M syn and i felt some clutch chatter...
probly try sumthin different in my Limited
#36
10-08-2010 | 07:20 AM
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Marketing folks love guys like you. No offense, but there are only a few producers of motor oil. I know for a fact that KMart brand used to be produced by Quaker State. Only differnece was the bottle it was sold in. Not sure if this is still true today as contracts expire and new deals are made. Amsoil is severly overpriced and is not better than Moble 1 Syn or whatever is out there.
Do you really think there is much difference, if any at all, between brands? Look at racing teams if you need proof. Do ALL teams use the same brand in their racing engines? Nope. Use whatever company is paying for sponsership and supplying free oil.
If there truly was a "best" motor oil every racing team would be using the same stuff. They don't. Think about this. NASCAR Engines run at 8-9 THOUSAND RPMS for 500 miles and no common motor oil is used between the teams. This is all you need to know.
Change every 2500-3000 miles and it does not matter one bit what oil you choose to use.
Do you really think there is much difference, if any at all, between brands? Look at racing teams if you need proof. Do ALL teams use the same brand in their racing engines? Nope. Use whatever company is paying for sponsership and supplying free oil.
If there truly was a "best" motor oil every racing team would be using the same stuff. They don't. Think about this. NASCAR Engines run at 8-9 THOUSAND RPMS for 500 miles and no common motor oil is used between the teams. This is all you need to know.
Change every 2500-3000 miles and it does not matter one bit what oil you choose to use.
#37
10-08-2010 | 08:02 AM
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I've run HD Formula+, Amsoil, and Redline Primary. The clutch feel degraded (slippery) with the Amsoil and both the HD Formula+ and the Redline have a solid feel. I'm good with either of the latter, but since I may leave it in there for up to 10k, will opt for the protection of the Redline.
Mark
Mark
#38
10-08-2010 | 08:15 AM
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I think as far as the motor goes, I have some Castrol Synthetic I'll use, but after readin that Redline Testimonial, it's hard not to try it in the primary and tranny. I think it will best serve tge tranny though, they didn't convince me on the primary as much. Bel Ray also makes seperate fluids for each hole, but you just never hear anyone using them.
#39
02-05-2011 | 08:17 PM
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re:Back in the day the primary chain was lubed with the same oil that ran through the engine. A oil line ran into the back of the inner primary onto the chain and then that oil was scavanged back into the oil tank to run though the engine/primary endlessly or until the engine wore out. Which ever came first.
I always wondered what HD engineer came up with that idea?
Seems to me I remember the oil was allowed to drip out of the primary on my "47 Knuckle giving rise to the "oil leaker" tag that Harleys had. How was the oil scavanged back?
Not trying to hijack just curious
I always wondered what HD engineer came up with that idea?
Seems to me I remember the oil was allowed to drip out of the primary on my "47 Knuckle giving rise to the "oil leaker" tag that Harleys had. How was the oil scavanged back?
Not trying to hijack just curious
The drive chain oiler had a screw that you could control how much oil was leaked onto the drive chain. I turned mine off and lubed the chain by hand so it wouldn't mark it's spot everywhere it was parked.
#40
02-05-2011 | 09:27 PM
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Just put Syn 3 in all three holes and everything seems fine. I probably change my oil sooner than I need to, always have in all my vehicles, but for the price of oil I figure what the hell.
Next change I may try something different in the primary and tranny, we'll see when the time comes I guess.
Next change I may try something different in the primary and tranny, we'll see when the time comes I guess.