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Old 10-07-2010 | 08:09 AM
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My question I guess is, why ATF? I never had any problems w/ Amsoil Syn 3 etc. But a lot of guys are using the ATF. What's the advantage? If any.
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by electra glide
My question I guess is, why ATF? I never had any problems w/ Amsoil Syn 3 etc. But a lot of guys are using the ATF. What's the advantage? If any.
cheeper and just as good to use.
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 08:44 AM
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Mobil 1 Syn 20W50 in engine and primary with Mobil 1 75W140 Gear oil in tranny....sweet.
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GJS-53
Any oil used with a wet clutch should be rated for it.
Any of the synthetics should carry that rating but why would one put Wal-Mart crap in a bike worth 10-25 thousand dollars.
$14.99 for a quart of Amsoil is cheap if you consider how much per mile it actually boils down to.
An Amsoil replacement in all three holes is only $75 bucks.
The dealer gets $390.00 and uses their Syn3 garbage.
Do the math and don't skimp quality to save 2 dollars.
Marketing folks love guys like you. No offense, but there are only a few producers of motor oil. I know for a fact that KMart brand used to be produced by Quaker State. Only differnece was the bottle it was sold in. Not sure if this is still true today as contracts expire and new deals are made. Amsoil is severly overpriced and is not better than Moble 1 Syn or whatever is out there.

Do you really think there is much difference, if any at all, between brands? Look at racing teams if you need proof. Do ALL teams use the same brand in their racing engines? Nope. Use whatever company is paying for sponsership and supplying free oil.

If there truly was a "best" motor oil every racing team would be using the same stuff. They don't. Think about this. NASCAR Engines run at 8-9 THOUSAND RPMS for 500 miles and no common motor oil is used between the teams. This is all you need to know.

Change every 2500-3000 miles and it does not matter one bit what oil you choose to use.
 

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Old 10-07-2010 | 09:32 AM
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HD Formula + for the primary.
Amsoil 20/50 for the crank for the time being. Will switch to M1 VT next time.
The top end is noisy with the Amsoil.
Spectro HD Platnium 6 speed for the tranny. It is 75/140 and shifts smooth....
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by simpkinst
Marketing folks love guys like you. No offense, but there are only a few producers of motor oil. I know for a fact that KMart brand used to be produced by Quaker State. Only differnece was the bottle it was sold in. Not sure if this is still true today as contracts expire and new deals are made. Amsoil is severly overpriced and is not better than Moble 1 Syn or whatever is out there.

Do you really think there is much difference, if any at all, between brands? Look at racing teams if you need proof. Do ALL teams use the same brand in their racing engines? Nope. Use whatever company is paying for sponsership and supplying free oil.

If there truly was a "best" motor oil every racing team would be using the same stuff. They don't. Think about this. NASCAR Engines run at 8-9 THOUSAND RPMS for 500 miles and no common motor oil is used between the teams. This is all you need to know.

Change every 2500-3000 miles and it does not matter one bit what oil you choose to use.
No offense, but it's not a good comparison to use Nascar teams. The way those engines are built and the amount of oil they use. I also know not everyone of them use the sponsors oil. Take Richard Petty for example. I had a friend who's brother worked on his Race team when STP sponsored him. He told his brother, they didn't use that **** in their engines. They all use Synthetic Oil because the dino oil turns to crap when it's overheated. Same way with Transmission oil. It's ruined when overheated. My advice to the op is use a synthetic primary oil in his Primary. JMO
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 10:39 AM
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I use Amsoil 20w50 synthetic in all 3 holes since the 5000 mile service. I have 27,000 on the bike now with no problems.
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 10:39 AM
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I'm using Redline Primary in the Primary and have had excellent results.
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NELS
re:Back in the day the primary chain was lubed with the same oil that ran through the engine. A oil line ran into the back of the inner primary onto the chain and then that oil was scavanged back into the oil tank to run though the engine/primary endlessly or until the engine wore out. Which ever came first.
I always wondered what HD engineer came up with that idea?

Seems to me I remember the oil was allowed to drip out of the primary on my "47 Knuckle giving rise to the "oil leaker" tag that Harleys had. How was the oil scavanged back?
Not trying to hijack just curious
It was returned the same way the engine oil was. There was a T-fitting that connected the primary return to the engine oil return. This was started with the aluminum primary and electric start in 1965. Before that Big twins used a total loss primary chain oil system. Whereas the crankcase vent was routed into the back of the inner primary cover and the oil mist lubricated the chain. The accumulated oil dripped out marking its spot. There was also a line off the oil pump to the final drive chain that was adjustable that dripped oil on the chain.
 
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Old 10-07-2010 | 01:00 PM
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I'm using RedLine in all 3. Working just fine for me.

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