2011 Ultra limited stage 1 upgrade
#11
10-03-2010 | 08:59 PM
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Hey guys, you are making this confusing for him. He needs a full explanation.
Your bike will run OK stock. It may run hotter than you like, but that's the way it is from the factory to pass emission standards. A lot of people leave their bikes stock.
If you like to have it run cooler and get a little more power, you can do the stage 1. Stage 1 will give you a few more horsepower.
Some people do a slip-on (muffler) change and install a different air cleaner to allow more air flow through the engine. When you do this you have to reprogram the EFI. You can have the dealer do a "download" which costs about $150. The software download reprograms the EFI. The Harley download is for Harley SE parts. If you use different slip-ons (third party), the download may not work as well as with SE parts because the air flow may be different. But the download also may work well enough.
The next better thing to do (but cost more money) is to have a fuel management device put on and then either have the bike dyno tuned or install a download to the device for the specific setup you are using. There are different fuel management devices available.
The third option is to change your header pipes along with the slip-ons and air cleaner. This would also require a fuel management device and the dyno tune or software download for the specific setup. Harley started installing catalytic converters the last couple years, and changing the header pipe will get rid of that which will help it run cooler.
Besides making the motor run cooler and getting a little more power, the bike will be louder and "sound more like a Harley".
This is my understanding of Stage 1 and I'm sure there are others with more experience than me that can explain it better. I hope this helps you understand it a little better.
Your bike will run OK stock. It may run hotter than you like, but that's the way it is from the factory to pass emission standards. A lot of people leave their bikes stock.
If you like to have it run cooler and get a little more power, you can do the stage 1. Stage 1 will give you a few more horsepower.
Some people do a slip-on (muffler) change and install a different air cleaner to allow more air flow through the engine. When you do this you have to reprogram the EFI. You can have the dealer do a "download" which costs about $150. The software download reprograms the EFI. The Harley download is for Harley SE parts. If you use different slip-ons (third party), the download may not work as well as with SE parts because the air flow may be different. But the download also may work well enough.
The next better thing to do (but cost more money) is to have a fuel management device put on and then either have the bike dyno tuned or install a download to the device for the specific setup you are using. There are different fuel management devices available.
The third option is to change your header pipes along with the slip-ons and air cleaner. This would also require a fuel management device and the dyno tune or software download for the specific setup. Harley started installing catalytic converters the last couple years, and changing the header pipe will get rid of that which will help it run cooler.
Besides making the motor run cooler and getting a little more power, the bike will be louder and "sound more like a Harley".
This is my understanding of Stage 1 and I'm sure there are others with more experience than me that can explain it better. I hope this helps you understand it a little better.
#12
10-03-2010 | 09:02 PM
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My 2010 Limited is my third Harley. I've been thru so many different mufflers, head pipes, cams, ported heads, bored cylinders, forged pistons, ect. I told my self I was going to keep this bike stock for two years. It's been a year and 17,200 miles and this is what I think.
I am really happy with the way it runs and performs. I mainly use my bike for touring. That said, it could be quicker off the line, but it out accelerates all the cars getting away from the pack from a stop. Merging onto the freeway, at 4,000 rpm in 3rd gear, I am exceeding the posted speed limit. It is an absolute pleasure to cruise on the freeway at anywhere from 55 to 85 mph.
It gets great fuel mileage. I don't even start looking for gas until I have gone 225-250 miles.
When I go ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, I don't worry about getting pulled over for loud pipes, or altered exhaust, as a matter of fact, a couple buddies have told me that my bike sounds good, I agree.
I suggest that you JUST RIDE IT and don't get hooked on all the hype you read on this or other forums or what he or she says. Contrary to what some might say, there darn good bikes right out of the box.
I am really happy with the way it runs and performs. I mainly use my bike for touring. That said, it could be quicker off the line, but it out accelerates all the cars getting away from the pack from a stop. Merging onto the freeway, at 4,000 rpm in 3rd gear, I am exceeding the posted speed limit. It is an absolute pleasure to cruise on the freeway at anywhere from 55 to 85 mph.
It gets great fuel mileage. I don't even start looking for gas until I have gone 225-250 miles.
When I go ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, I don't worry about getting pulled over for loud pipes, or altered exhaust, as a matter of fact, a couple buddies have told me that my bike sounds good, I agree.
I suggest that you JUST RIDE IT and don't get hooked on all the hype you read on this or other forums or what he or she says. Contrary to what some might say, there darn good bikes right out of the box.
Thanks for the advice. I like your ideas and also what Blusmbi said. I think I will follow both or your suggestions and just get use to the bike. It's been a joy to ride, lucky for me, it was the owner's demo bike so I didn't have to worry about break-in and it' had the 1000 service before I took delivery (1345 miles).
As I said in an earlier post, I had a G/W for 7 years, and this bike is major change, but I like the way it handles, and so far for the way I ride it (to and from work 25-30 miles) in DC traffic, it has good pick up and handles beautifully! Much better than the G/W did.
Is there anything paricular that I need to be aware of besides getting used to the ride, handling etc?
Thanks, cestep6
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10-03-2010 | 09:04 PM
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Hey guys, you are making this confusing for him. He needs a full explanation.
Your bike will run OK stock. It may run hotter than you like, but that's the way it is from the factory to pass emission standards. A lot of people leave their bikes stock.
If you like to have it run cooler and get a little more power, you can do the stage 1. Stage 1 will give you a few more horsepower.
Some people do a slip-on (muffler) change and install a different air cleaner to allow more air flow through the engine. When you do this you have to reprogram the EFI. You can have the dealer do a "download" which costs about $150. The software download reprograms the EFI. The Harley download is for Harley SE parts. If you use different slip-ons (third party), the download may not work as well as with SE parts because the air flow may be different. But the download also may work well enough.
The next better thing to do (but cost more money) is to have a fuel management device put on and then either have the bike dyno tuned or install a download to the device for the specific setup you are using. There are different fuel management devices available.
The third option is to change your header pipes along with the slip-ons and air cleaner. This would also require a fuel management device and the dyno tune or software download for the specific setup. Harley started installing catalytic converters the last couple years, and changing the header pipe will get rid of that which will help it run cooler.
Besides making the motor run cooler and getting a little more power, the bike will be louder and "sound more like a Harley".
This is my understanding of Stage 1 and I'm sure there are others with more experience than me that can explain it better. I hope this helps you understand it a little better.
Your bike will run OK stock. It may run hotter than you like, but that's the way it is from the factory to pass emission standards. A lot of people leave their bikes stock.
If you like to have it run cooler and get a little more power, you can do the stage 1. Stage 1 will give you a few more horsepower.
Some people do a slip-on (muffler) change and install a different air cleaner to allow more air flow through the engine. When you do this you have to reprogram the EFI. You can have the dealer do a "download" which costs about $150. The software download reprograms the EFI. The Harley download is for Harley SE parts. If you use different slip-ons (third party), the download may not work as well as with SE parts because the air flow may be different. But the download also may work well enough.
The next better thing to do (but cost more money) is to have a fuel management device put on and then either have the bike dyno tuned or install a download to the device for the specific setup you are using. There are different fuel management devices available.
The third option is to change your header pipes along with the slip-ons and air cleaner. This would also require a fuel management device and the dyno tune or software download for the specific setup. Harley started installing catalytic converters the last couple years, and changing the header pipe will get rid of that which will help it run cooler.
Besides making the motor run cooler and getting a little more power, the bike will be louder and "sound more like a Harley".
This is my understanding of Stage 1 and I'm sure there are others with more experience than me that can explain it better. I hope this helps you understand it a little better.
Thanks for the explanation and for giving me options.
#14
10-03-2010 | 09:39 PM
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From: Indianapolis, IN
This is only the beginning, once you decide to do stage 1 there are many more options and decisions to make. Which air intake? Which slip-ons? Which fuel management device? Change the headers? Which headers to choose?
This is only my second HD so I can't leave it alone. My 103 engine does run hotter than I like also. I also noticed it pinging when it gets hot and I put it under load. So I plan to do the stage 1. The parts I pick will be based on how loud I want it and what vendors I prefer. I will be changing the headers to V&H dresser duals. The V&H power duals would give me more power, but I like the look of the dresser duals better. The slip-ons will be either V&H Monster Ovals or V&H Hi-Outputs. Both of these give a low deep growl sound, but one is louder than the other. I have to decide how loud I want it to be or not be. As far as air inlet and fuel management device, I will use Harley SE parts (SE air inlet and SE Pro Super tuner). I will then have it dyno tuned. This is what I've decided for my bike. Others have taken a different approach. You have to do the research and decide what you think is best for you. Good Luck!
This is only my second HD so I can't leave it alone. My 103 engine does run hotter than I like also. I also noticed it pinging when it gets hot and I put it under load. So I plan to do the stage 1. The parts I pick will be based on how loud I want it and what vendors I prefer. I will be changing the headers to V&H dresser duals. The V&H power duals would give me more power, but I like the look of the dresser duals better. The slip-ons will be either V&H Monster Ovals or V&H Hi-Outputs. Both of these give a low deep growl sound, but one is louder than the other. I have to decide how loud I want it to be or not be. As far as air inlet and fuel management device, I will use Harley SE parts (SE air inlet and SE Pro Super tuner). I will then have it dyno tuned. This is what I've decided for my bike. Others have taken a different approach. You have to do the research and decide what you think is best for you. Good Luck!
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10-03-2010 | 10:20 PM
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#16
10-04-2010 | 03:17 PM
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#17
12-31-2010 | 12:15 PM
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From: Niantic Ct.
cool down
Hello everyone and let me be the first to say Happy New Years to all. I am an owner of a 2011 FLHTK Limited with 103cu.in. I have just over 800 miles on it; I live in CT. I am all done riding for this year, but 2011 hang-on. OK what I would like to ask. I have put just over 800 miles on the bike; I love riding the bike but; have come to realize that the bike can get very, very hot. Therefore, I am concerting going with a stage one set-up. The stage one set-up consists of SE air cleaner, Fullsac Header X-Pipe, Screamin’ Eagle Pro Super Tuner and RH slip-ons. My question is will this set-up help cool the bike down? I would really love to get some feedback on this.
#18
12-31-2010 | 12:46 PM
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I just purchased a 2011 Road Glide Ultra 3 weeks ago today, I have 700 miles on so far. I did the Stage 1, V&H header pipes to get rid of the cat and went with Bassani muffers. My reasoning was I wanted to get rid of the heat problem. A friend of mine has a 2010 EGU Limited with the 103 and could not stand to ride it once it got hot here on Oklahoma so he removed the cat and put on the True Duals and was very happy the rest of the summer. He said it boosted his gas mileage about 4mpg. I new I was going to have to pay for the remap so I decided to go ahead and do it all at once. I didn't do the fuel management device because I wanted to see how well I liked it after doing these mods first. Let me tell you I'm very happy with the Stage 1 and true duals so far. I had the 103 in my Police RK that I sold to buy this bike and there is no comparison in power. This RG would run rings around my Police bike. It has plenty of power and good "roll on" power while cruising at Hwy speed. I can't wait to get it broke in so I can see just what it will do. I didn't have a Goldwing but I have 2 Valkryies before I went with a Harley. I didn't think I would ever find a bike that I'd like as well as my Valkrye but let me tell you I was wrong. I love the Harley's and everything that comes along with it. I wish I would have done it 20 years ago.
Good luck on what ever you decide.
Good luck on what ever you decide.
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12-31-2010 | 01:06 PM
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