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107" Big Bore Kit and Dyno Testing by Fuel Moto
#811
02-14-2012, 08:17 AM
Road Warrior
I don't need to research anything...I've built many bikes and participated in my boys builds....you obviously don't get it....for the last time...there is no reason to jump to a 107 for a mere 100hp when you can push a 96/103 to that with a cam and heads....but your a genius obviously....mind as well build a 124 pushin those numbers...makes complete sense, then you can get smoked by a dude on a built 96....
I think your a little fixated on dyno numbers. Big numbers don't necessarily mean a great riding/running bike. Dyno numbers are at WFO throttle, which happens how often on your 800 plus pound tourer?
Dyno's can vary greatly on numbers from one to another and if you stick to a proven combination like Fuel Moto's, whick I think is one helluva deal for the buck then you will get the great running bike everyone wants!
#812
02-14-2012, 10:19 AM
Once again I wasn't slamming your business, i was talking about the guys that want to upgrade to 107's but only pull 100hp...my thing is if your gonna jump your motor up then do it and don't be half *** about it. If you only want 100hp then stick with your 96 or 103 and just do heads and cams on it and you should already be there depending on your combo. I have seen my friends do it time and time again. I want alot of HP and i'm going from a 103 to a 107 because I don't want to mess with my crank as of yet. But i'm all in at a 107 hoping for the most...not 100hp.....I guess my daddy told me, if your gonna do it then do it, don't come half ***, If its a money thing then why jump to a 107 if your not gonna crank it out....that's all i'm saying....once agian not a slam to you, I know your giving people what they want.....chill out...it was more towards the people jumping out of there chairs cause they pulled 100hp out of a weak 107 combo......heads;cams/good dyno tune would get you there with a 96....
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02-14-2012, 11:22 AM
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I don't need to research anything...I've built many bikes and participated in my boys builds....you obviously don't get it....for the last time...there is no reason to jump to a 107 for a mere 100hp when you can push a 96/103 to that with a cam and heads....but your a genius obviously....mind as well build a 124 pushin those numbers...makes complete sense, then you can get smoked by a dude on a built 96....
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#814
02-14-2012, 12:26 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
I would love to see a stock 96/103 with a cam and heads make a 100hp!!!
I think your a little fixated on dyno numbers. Big numbers don't necessarily mean a great riding/running bike. Dyno numbers are at WFO throttle, which happens how often on your 800 plus pound tourer?
Dyno's can vary greatly on numbers from one to another and if you stick to a proven combination like Fuel Moto's, whick I think is one helluva deal for the buck then you will get the great running bike everyone wants!
I think your a little fixated on dyno numbers. Big numbers don't necessarily mean a great riding/running bike. Dyno numbers are at WFO throttle, which happens how often on your 800 plus pound tourer?
Dyno's can vary greatly on numbers from one to another and if you stick to a proven combination like Fuel Moto's, whick I think is one helluva deal for the buck then you will get the great running bike everyone wants!
#815
02-14-2012, 12:34 PM
While I'm NOT backing the troll, and am a huge fan of Jamies (I will be doing the 107" soon, and have already had him do my cams and dyno), I'm pretty sure you could get 100/110 out of a 96" with cams and head work. I'm getting 90/104 with just cams and a tune. I'm pretty sure doing the heads could get me around another 10 hp. But as the gentleman stated a post or two above me, my build is on a budget. I'll do the 107" first, and at some point in the future do the heads. Everything will still be matched to work with each other, just on a longer time-line.
#816
02-14-2012, 12:36 PM
Road Warrior
While I'm NOT backing the troll, and am a huge fan of Jamies (I will be doing the 107" soon, and have already had him do my cams and dyno), I'm pretty sure you could get 100/110 out of a 96" with cams and head work. I'm getting 90/104 with just cams and a tune. I'm pretty sure doing the heads could get me around another 10 hp. But as the gentleman stated a post or two above me, my build is on a budget. I'll do the 107" first, and at some point in the future do the heads. Everything will still be matched to work with each other, just on a longer time-line.
#817
02-14-2012, 12:45 PM
I don't think it's impossible, but I would like to see it!! If it were easy every one would do it. The nice thing about the Fuel Moto builds is they seem to be very repeatable with many happy customers with reliable rides, not some dyno queen that makes big numbers but rides like ****.
Pretty sure a 96" with a TW-555 or TW-777, SE Kompressor heads (or a high compression piston), and some headwork could get a little over 100/100 pretty consistently. But why go through all that and still have the "little" engine. If you are that far, put on bigger jugs and piston and be that much closer to keeping up with the Jone's. Just my opinion.
#818
02-14-2012, 01:18 PM
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Dude (hougz) you need to step back and re evaluate life priorities, motor work vs wedding????????????? Come on guy, have any friends tried an intervention yet? Unless its your daughters wedding get paper plates have a bbq and do whatever motor work you want. Statistically you will likely be riding bike longer than you will a new wife.
Chinabagger thanks for your vast knowledge ( opinion ), remember you are not talking to a bunch of newbies here, some of them actually been down this road many times.
Chinabagger thanks for your vast knowledge ( opinion ), remember you are not talking to a bunch of newbies here, some of them actually been down this road many times.
Yup, my plan too. For me reliability is a huge factor. So if I can get over 100/100 without a super high compression motor, I'm all about it. Plus, as much as I know I'll like 120+ hp, I want the novelty to wear off of 100/100 first. I'm going to have this bike for a long time, no need to blow my load right away. Plus I have a wedding to pay for and the fiance already is less than trilled about $2,000 going into my motor instead of tablecloths...LOL
#819
02-14-2012, 01:38 PM
While I'm NOT backing the troll, and am a huge fan of Jamies (I will be doing the 107" soon, and have already had him do my cams and dyno), I'm pretty sure you could get 100/110 out of a 96" with cams and head work. I'm getting 90/104 with just cams and a tune. I'm pretty sure doing the heads could get me around another 10 hp. But as the gentleman stated a post or two above me, my build is on a budget. I'll do the 107" first, and at some point in the future do the heads. Everything will still be matched to work with each other, just on a longer time-line.
