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Old 08-13-2010, 09:17 PM
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+5 for the E3's. The diehard 402 owners just havent seen the glory of the E3.

Elite 3's are far superior.
 
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by skdvr
Damn... Is that typical wear? What kind of mileage are the rest of you getting from your E-3's? That seems to be a popular choice. I like the White Walls but don't need them. If the E-3's are that nice on the twisties, groves and tread life, I'm sure that is where I will be headed...

Thanks again for the input and keep it coming.

Phil
That's not my experience. I've got 37K on my bike. The 402 got me just over 9K before it was slick.

I went to an EIII for my second tire and it made it till 21.5K. A big improvement in milage and it handled better. I changed to an EII on the front at the same time.

My second rear EIII went 13.5K to about 35K.

I personally will not ever put another 402 on my motorcycle because I don't like the way they tend to break loose under moderate braking. The EIII's are way better handling and I don't have any problem under moderate braking conditions like I did with the 402.

Hope this helps.
 
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E-3's all the way.
 
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:26 AM
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Put a E3 on just before taking off on a 4000 mile trip a few weeks ago. So far so good. Ordered from "Jake Wilson", see link below. (local indy installed, used dyna beads for balance. the balance was pretty good w/o any weight or beads to start with.) Kind of hard to find on their web site. Found it under "touring tires" not HD tires. Showed it fit a 1500 Wing.

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MU90B-16: Very close to stock size at .01" taller and .06" wider. Should also fit older bikes.

160-80-16: Apparently fits even though there is very little gap between tire and belt guard, but with stock 3" wheels violates Dunlop's wheel spec of 3.5". I personally wouldn't run these, but those who do think I'm a curmudgeon.

Front:

MT90B-16: Same size as stock.]
(above stolen from one of iclick's posts)

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Old 08-14-2010, 08:52 AM
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I'm trying E-3's next time, the 402's don't last. I'm lucky to get 9k out of my rear
 
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:03 AM
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+1 for the E-3's. Never got more then 8k out of the 402's or the Metz 880. Got 12k on the E3 with some more to go. Like the way they handle too.
 
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by skdvr
Damn... Is that typical wear? (22k miles).
Probably not, but I got 20k out of my first E3 rear, double that of the two D402's I had on this bike. They handle better, eliminate most of the groove-tracking behavior so noticeable in the D402's, cost less, and obviously have much better durability for most of us. I've heard of very few who report a desire to move back to D402's once they get a taste for these great tires, the vast majority being elated with them. I would not depend on getting 20k on your rear E3's, but I am confident that you will do much better than you did with D402's in the wear dept.

The rear E3 did start to cup a bit on the edges at about 17k miles which produced some minor whining or droning in corners, but I never heard it unless I had the radio off, which is almost never for me. I've had an E3 front on the bike now for 11k miles without no cupping yet.

If the E-3's are that nice on the twisties, groves and tread life, I'm sure that is where I will be headed...
Performance is excellent wet or dry. These tires were originally designed for Gold Wings to address wear complaints many riders had, and before I bought my first E3 rear I started reading the GW forums for opinions. I posted on one of them for advise and several told me they were excellent as long as you stayed on pavement--not so good in gravel and terrible in grass. I can't relate to running on grass and don't plan on it, but I've run them on oily sand as well as gravel and don't find them any worse that anything else I've ridden on, but I'd rather leave the gravel and grass to the off-road guys anyway. I will attest that they are excellent on pavement, wet or dry, and I almost get giddy when I find something like this that has no downside.
 
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7,000 hard fast miles on rear 402 until worn out. 14,000 on rear E3 and they handle a bunch better. Only thing i found is if you get on muddy slick grass a rear E3 is useless due to the tread pattern. Might as well be riding on ice. If for whatever bizarre reason you regularly ride in mud the E3 may not be for you.
 
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Originally Posted by Araba Shriner
+5 for the E3's. The diehard 402 owners just havent seen the glory of the E3.

Elite 3's are far superior.
What he said
 
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:14 PM
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EIII are pretty good....i like them..
 


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