Wow,not cool!! Keep us posted as to how you make out with the new one.I think even if I bought one out the box; I would stll do some things to it to make sure it was right.I would still balance & weld crank.Install temken, if it doesnt come with it.I would have Dan Baisley go over heads to make sure they were cc'd correctly to get comp right.Have bike dyno tuned with the TTS ,& install a Boarzilla then let her rip!!!

 

The only thing I might do different is to use the new Power Vision Tuner instead of TTS.

http://www.fuelmotousa.com/powervision.htm

 

You think that would be a better tunning system for a 120R that i am installing soon? I have the SEPST with Smarttune but am intimidated with the software, but see a base map for the 120R. I have a PCV on the bike right now with the 96 but can't find a base map for the 120 so i guess that is coming off.

 

While we need to see this unit in the real world, if it delivers on it's promotional description, the choice will be very easy. If it were my bike I would go with a D&D Boarzilla exhaust with 18mm O2 bungs (instead of the 12mm O2 bungs). Then I would install wide band O2 sensors with the PowerCommander AT-100 unit plus the new Power Vision tuner to be released in Dec.

I have the SEPST and previously tuned with the Race Tuner and this new unit will be the future of motorcyle tuning. IMO all other tuners will be considered obsolete within 6 months of the full launch of this new tuner in Jan. 2011. Particularly when you compare capabilities and price. No question that this new tuner at $500 is a far greater value than anything offered by Harley or TTS.

 

this is the one I tuned. if you look at the clutch slip in the last graph , it will show where the dips comes from.
got 2 more ordered now. going to do some head work and see where they go.

 

it looks like a nice unit for sure. it will have some added options,that will good for home tuners. in the end though it still allows access to the ecm ,and isnt going to be any better "tune wise" just a diff setup to get there. any of the big 4 tuners Direct Link,SESPT, TTS, PV, in the hands of a GOOD tuner will net the same results. so I dont think any will become obsolete

 

Newflash: Your tech is WRONG.

However.... if you're happy with it, that's all that matters.

 

You are correct that the performance of the bike's tune is really only as good as the skill of the tuner using any of the currently available software. For that very reason, I still believe that unless there is a dramatic difference in price, the tuning software/device that is the most user friendly, requires the least modification to the bike and can generate the best results with the least amount of restrictions will win the day.

When users have the choice of spending $350-400 for software that requires a laptop being attached to the bike (TTS) or $350-400 for software that requires attaching a laptop after the bike stops (SEPST) or $500 for a device that doesn't require a laptop for most tuning variables and can be viewed/adjusted while riding the bike....the call will be an easy one. I stand by my earlier view that the tuning alternatives that require attaching a laptop will either upgrade their approach or become obsolete or dramatically lower their price.

 

I can agree with that.
it will be interesting to see at least one of them scramble.
dont think we will see them go away. change there approach ? yes.
lower there price? I hope so! but doubt it.