Rode 100 miles with the Reach seat yesterday - took it back today. It did move me forward so my shoulders didn't ache, but, when I got up this morning, I could hardly walk because my thighs, which bore my weight since my butt was not properly positioned in the bucket, hurt bad. I traded the Reach in on a Screaming Eagle seat which may just be the right answer. The passenger area is not as wide as the Reach or the Sundowner, but may be adequate. Need a long ride to really test.