so confused PCV with AT
#11
Yes I have enabled the auto tune. Switched what I needed to switch. I went through all the wires are all hooked up corectly I pulled it all out went back to stock went for a ride came home and reinstalled it all. same problem I'm calling Fuelmoto tomorrow hope they can walk through the fix.
#12
I am getting in the low to mid 30's in gas mileage before mods I was getting in the low to mid 50's my concern is that after a ride I have no trims ton accept or clear so I don't think how I set my AFR's. Today I have set my target AFR's in the 4.2 range in my crusing range but I don't think my AT is working
Low-to-mid 30's isn't good even for city mileage, and if you were getting low-to-mid 50s before you were doing better than any TC I've seen to date.
#13
#14
Yes I have enabled the auto tune. Switched what I needed to switch. I went through all the wires are all hooked up corectly I pulled it all out went back to stock went for a ride came home and reinstalled it all. same problem I'm calling Fuelmoto tomorrow hope they can walk through the fix.
http://www.powercommander.com/downlo.../eng15-003.pdf
#15
alright, i installed my pcv and AT about 2 weeks ago. Just got back from a trip and got a chance to hook the bike up to the laptop. I too have all 0's for trim values. The target AFR's are there. So I updated the software and firmware. Same thing, all zero's. checked all the wires. hooked up to the correct cylinders. colors are in the right holes. But I did just realize that I never properly installed the termination plug in the AT module. I only put in one of those rubber plugs. Could that possibly be it. Stupid question, but what does the termination plug do anyway?
Last edited by bjpharmd; 06-13-2010 at 08:55 PM.
#16
read page 2 of the manual.
Map -
so if you dont have a switch or jumper the auto tune never starts sampling.
Map -
The PCV has the ability to hold 2 different base
maps. You can switch on the fly between these
two base maps when you hook up a switch to
two base maps when you hook up a switch to
the MAP inputs. You can use any open/close
type switch. The polarity of the wires is not
important. When using the Autotune kit one
position will hold a base map and the other
position will let you activate the learning mode.
When the switch is “CLOSED” Autotune will be
activated.
type switch. The polarity of the wires is not
important. When using the Autotune kit one
position will hold a base map and the other
position will let you activate the learning mode.
When the switch is “CLOSED” Autotune will be
activated.
so if you dont have a switch or jumper the auto tune never starts sampling.
Last edited by Mike5959; 06-13-2010 at 09:07 PM.
#17
If you are not getting fuel trims the Auto Tune is not installed incorrectly. Make you have enabled the Auto Tune in the software, you do not need a switch however if you have installed one make sure you have it wired correctly. The most common install mixup we see during the install is that users forget to install the CAN termination plug in the open port of the the Auto Tune module, it is the black plastic plug (not the rubber dust plug) which contains a resistor and it is required to complete the CAN circuit. The other mixup we see is that the AT is plugged into the ACC port under the seat, the AT needs to be plugged into the diagnostic plug under the left side cover on 08 and newer Touring models and is under the right cover on 07 and earlier bikes. To verify the AT is working properly you can plug into the software, start the bike and you will be able to see live AFR for the front and rear cylinders.
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Jamie Long / Fuel Moto USA
The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
#18
If you are not getting fuel trims the Auto Tune is not installed incorrectly. Make you have enabled the Auto Tune in the software, you do not need a switch however if you have installed one make sure you have it wired correctly. The most common install mixup we see during the install is that users forget to install the CAN termination plug in the open port of the the Auto Tune module, it is the black plastic plug (not the rubber dust plug) which contains a resistor and it is required to complete the CAN circuit. The other mixup we see is that the AT is plugged into the ACC port under the seat, the AT needs to be plugged into the diagnostic plug under the left side cover on 08 and newer Touring models and is under the right cover on 07 and earlier bikes. To verify the AT is working properly you can plug into the software, start the bike and you will be able to see live AFR for the front and rear cylinders.
#19
Thanks for the quick reply. It was the termination plug. I was installing it probably as you were typing your reply. I thought it was too late to fire her up (don't wanna **** off the neighbors), but i was too curious. Well that was the trick. Live AFR's and all. If I weren't so impatient, I would've properly installed everything 2 weeks ago. Maybe someone else can learn from my mistake though. Now I can't wait to start "Autotuning". Thanks FuelMoto. Love your toys.
#20
It only looks for a closed circuit if the Auto Tune and Hardware switch are both enabled. It does not require a switch or jumper of any kind to operate properly