Tried out a Boyesen X-Wing Today ,,Happy!
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Really ?? You do not suppose that an area in the throat of the throttle body would be a turbulent area with swirling and multi directional disturbed air ?? Maybe the oil vapors from the vent tubes would swirl outside the throat of the throttle body, collect and eventually drip ? You do not think that perhaps with the introduction of a device that helps straighten the airflow out would also minimize the collection of oil vapor on the outer areas of the throttle body and thus stop dripping ???? You think there is no way or no how eh Uncle ?? Well you have a pretty good chance being wrong.
#23
What happens to that smooth flowing air right after it passes the throttle plate? It turns a corner which will induce some turbulence. Then it goes through the intake port, either polished or factory casting and slams into the intake valve. What happens to that smooth flow when is forced around a more or less flat plate and squeezed between the edge of the valve and the valve seat? Rest assured that full turbulence has been restored. If the goal is complete combustion a little turbulence should help mix up the burning and unburned mixture for more rapid and complete burning. How many racing vehicles, 2 wheeled, 4 wheeled or even reciprocating engine airplanes use these gadgets where thousands of dollars of prize money is on the line? Does NASCAR have a rule against using them as unfair competitive advantage? I doubt it. Especially in a machine with significant vibration, will the extra mass on the throttle shaft increase the rate of wear in the throttle shaft support and lead to unfiltered air leaks? At least with fuel injection a throttle shaft air leak won't throw off the mixture until the leak becomes severe.
#24
I had a Boysen on my "12 RGU for 12000 mi. I keep track of fuel mileage at each fill up. I noticed no noticeable power increase and no difference in fuel mileage on my bike. On a different bike under different situations there may be some improvement but not for me. When I traded the RGU in the Boysen was still on it. I will not spend money on another.
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Growing up in the north country, Boyesen was well known for making two stroke snowmobiles run a lot better. I read a review in the free mag that is given out at Harley dealers, about their X wing made for Harleys.
The most noticeable difference, a difference that I detected immediately as soon as I started the bike after installation, is that it gave me instant throttle response when "blipping" the throttle. Other than that, I detected no other difference in the "seat of the pants" dyno.
However, Boyesen also makes intakes, that were checked out in American Iron, with pretty good gains. The X wing is an integral part of their intake.
http://www.aimag.com/2014/10/hi-po-t...ower-x-intake/
The most noticeable difference, a difference that I detected immediately as soon as I started the bike after installation, is that it gave me instant throttle response when "blipping" the throttle. Other than that, I detected no other difference in the "seat of the pants" dyno.
However, Boyesen also makes intakes, that were checked out in American Iron, with pretty good gains. The X wing is an integral part of their intake.
http://www.aimag.com/2014/10/hi-po-t...ower-x-intake/
Last edited by MNPGRider; 11-03-2015 at 11:13 AM.
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When I used to run 2 stroke dirt bikes the Boyesen reed valves were very popular.
They kept pressure from backing up in the intake system. It would only flow one way, towards the engine.
Biggest difference noticed what the more instantaneous reaction to opening the throttle. Climbing a hill, at lower revs make more power than without the reeds.
This is a different system, but the theory is solid that it should make a quicker responding bike.
It was not about the additional horsepower, but the elimination of bogging when opening the throttle at lower revs.
They kept pressure from backing up in the intake system. It would only flow one way, towards the engine.
Biggest difference noticed what the more instantaneous reaction to opening the throttle. Climbing a hill, at lower revs make more power than without the reeds.
This is a different system, but the theory is solid that it should make a quicker responding bike.
It was not about the additional horsepower, but the elimination of bogging when opening the throttle at lower revs.
#30
I stand a real good chance of being 100% correct ... As is stated by many in this thread and many others like it ... this is a bunch of snake oil and there is no scientific data to support it. Been turning wrenches ( ASE Certified Master ) and racing for more years than I care to remember and this "crap" surfaces every so often. You can "theorize" all you want but it's just conjecture, plain and simple.