2010 Limited -HQ 107 ST Build in Progress
#31
Great thread Guy!!1 These are the threads i live for!
On a side note..Was talking to a buddy about my motor. Its making 137/140 now and i really love it. But....Its kind of a waste on a street bike. I can't push it to its potential on the street at all...not even close.....On a track hell yes. He asked what i would build the next time.....I said 107! Seems to be a really good sized street motor that work really well on the street and can be used fully.
Good luck with the new bike and build and keep us posted.
On a side note..Was talking to a buddy about my motor. Its making 137/140 now and i really love it. But....Its kind of a waste on a street bike. I can't push it to its potential on the street at all...not even close.....On a track hell yes. He asked what i would build the next time.....I said 107! Seems to be a really good sized street motor that work really well on the street and can be used fully.
Good luck with the new bike and build and keep us posted.
#32
Ok, Time to finish up this thread, the engine is done, broke in and is running great.
First things first. You always see me saying check everything, and I do mean everything when doing a build. And cleanliness is a must, one small metal chip or carbon chip can do damage and you just dont need anything to screw up the nice new parts.
Another item to do ahead of time is to grind the "lip" off of the stock intake flanges. Stock has a raised area around the bolt holes.
By grinding this off, when the heads are decked and the intake now sits deeper in the "V", there is still plenty of play to get the throttle body into place and proper tighten the bolt and pinch the gaskets.
I installed the cams, pretty straight forward and there are many other threads on how to put them in, orient the timing marks and check the gears. Once they are in, buttoned up the cam cover and slid the primed Black Ops lifters into the bores. Note: dont forget the anti-rotation pin. This can have catastophic results.
Setting ring gap, do not just put the ring at the top of the bore, push it down into the cyl with the piston inverted to a point where the ring will actually run.
Check the gap and when doing so ensure that the rings go back into the cylinder that was used to check gap. The cylinders should be identical but I am just sort of fussy that way.
Before installing pistons on the rods, I mark them as to orientation, ensuring that if the valve pockets are different size, the larger pockets go to the center of the engine as these are for the intake valves. The marking just ensures that at a glance, I have it right.
I slipped the cyls over the pistons. Next was to put the heads in place. I had to install the Auto Compression Releases into the heads.
You will need a special socket if you are installing ACRs, they are impossible to install without the socket.
ACR in socket
Once the heads are on the cyls, I torqued them following the Cometic method, to 42 Ft.lbs. The HD method will work with stock gaskets but with MLS you need to follow the instructions and torque properly. I then insterded the pushrods and tubes . DON'T forget to install the o-rings for the tubes. Even though these are adjustable pushrods, putting them in now allows you to extend them quite a bit and makes adjusting so much quicker and easier.
Using the oil pump alignment pins, I center the lower rocker boxes prior to tightening.
From this point on, the install is pretty straight forward, bolt in the rockers, covers, throttle body and exhaust. I spent a little time in routing the breather lines. I am not using a catch can, just vented directly under the bike.
Finished up all the little items that were removed, and loaded in a TTS map that I have and it fired on first rotation. The ACRs do work as designed, this is the first build I have done using ACRs and I dont think I will look back. It is very nice just to hit the switch and go.
Ran first tank of fuel through it (200 miles) and got about 38 mpg. Ran the second tank through yesterday, two up the whole day, combination of city and country riding and got 42mpg. I suspect it will go up a bit more as things wear in. So far, this will really keep me satisfied coming off a torque monster 120 onto the quicker reving 107 still with plenty of torque.
Hope some of you learn a bit by reading this type of thread, as these are just some steps that should be done.
First things first. You always see me saying check everything, and I do mean everything when doing a build. And cleanliness is a must, one small metal chip or carbon chip can do damage and you just dont need anything to screw up the nice new parts.
Another item to do ahead of time is to grind the "lip" off of the stock intake flanges. Stock has a raised area around the bolt holes.
By grinding this off, when the heads are decked and the intake now sits deeper in the "V", there is still plenty of play to get the throttle body into place and proper tighten the bolt and pinch the gaskets.
I installed the cams, pretty straight forward and there are many other threads on how to put them in, orient the timing marks and check the gears. Once they are in, buttoned up the cam cover and slid the primed Black Ops lifters into the bores. Note: dont forget the anti-rotation pin. This can have catastophic results.
Setting ring gap, do not just put the ring at the top of the bore, push it down into the cyl with the piston inverted to a point where the ring will actually run.
Check the gap and when doing so ensure that the rings go back into the cylinder that was used to check gap. The cylinders should be identical but I am just sort of fussy that way.
Before installing pistons on the rods, I mark them as to orientation, ensuring that if the valve pockets are different size, the larger pockets go to the center of the engine as these are for the intake valves. The marking just ensures that at a glance, I have it right.
I slipped the cyls over the pistons. Next was to put the heads in place. I had to install the Auto Compression Releases into the heads.
You will need a special socket if you are installing ACRs, they are impossible to install without the socket.
ACR in socket
Once the heads are on the cyls, I torqued them following the Cometic method, to 42 Ft.lbs. The HD method will work with stock gaskets but with MLS you need to follow the instructions and torque properly. I then insterded the pushrods and tubes . DON'T forget to install the o-rings for the tubes. Even though these are adjustable pushrods, putting them in now allows you to extend them quite a bit and makes adjusting so much quicker and easier.
Using the oil pump alignment pins, I center the lower rocker boxes prior to tightening.
From this point on, the install is pretty straight forward, bolt in the rockers, covers, throttle body and exhaust. I spent a little time in routing the breather lines. I am not using a catch can, just vented directly under the bike.
Finished up all the little items that were removed, and loaded in a TTS map that I have and it fired on first rotation. The ACRs do work as designed, this is the first build I have done using ACRs and I dont think I will look back. It is very nice just to hit the switch and go.
Ran first tank of fuel through it (200 miles) and got about 38 mpg. Ran the second tank through yesterday, two up the whole day, combination of city and country riding and got 42mpg. I suspect it will go up a bit more as things wear in. So far, this will really keep me satisfied coming off a torque monster 120 onto the quicker reving 107 still with plenty of torque.
Hope some of you learn a bit by reading this type of thread, as these are just some steps that should be done.
Last edited by Dalton; 05-31-2010 at 07:26 PM.
#34
I have not had any issues with intake leaks by doing this.
#37
Oh well, I'll likely have the heads gone through next winter, there'll be time to do it then. I did install the Baisley +15 oil spring. I think a sticky regarding things to remember when you've got your motor apart is a very good idea.
Great thread!!! I've just got my bike together, and I'm already planning on what to do next time I've got it apart. I'm a sick, sick man.
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