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Old 05-14-2010 | 11:53 PM
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Werent you the guy wanting to open an Indy Shop and get dyno trained? Your gonna need tools to do that, you might as well start buying now and learn how to use them on your bike so that when someone is PAYING you to do it to thier bike you will do it right the first time.
Yes, that's me. I'm probably going to go ahead and buy the tools. I just bought a $1000 compressor and I'm a little nervous about the cam swap. I've only done one other twin cam swap and it's been about a year and a half ago and I had the help of a veteran HD mechanic. I've been trying to save money to get someone to teach me to dyno tune also and that sounds like it's gonna be pretty costly. I actually called dynojet today at the advice of someone here on the forums who told me they would give me a one day free class to get aquainted with a dyno but after speaking to them, they basically said my only option was to buy a dyno from them and then they would come train me to use it. It's a little scary spending 25 grand on a dyno that I don't know how to turn on.

I've checked into schools like MMI but the tuition is outrageous and some guys I've talked to say it isn't worth it. The stuff they teach is pretty elementary and you come out only making $10 an hour. I'd rather just pay to take a seminar or class that last a few weeks or so instead of two years like MMI and still not know alot or how to tune. Any pointers on this would be appreciated as well.

As for the tools, I've had a couple of guys offer to lend me theirs here on the forums the last couple of days but I'll probably do like you said and buy those tools from Georges garage, Jims or this Beatty fellow.
 
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Old 05-15-2010 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 1931jamesw
Yes, that's me. I'm probably going to go ahead and buy the tools. I just bought a $1000 compressor and I'm a little nervous about the cam swap. I've only done one other twin cam swap and it's been about a year and a half ago and I had the help of a veteran HD mechanic. I've been trying to save money to get someone to teach me to dyno tune also and that sounds like it's gonna be pretty costly. I actually called dynojet today at the advice of someone here on the forums who told me they would give me a one day free class to get aquainted with a dyno but after speaking to them, they basically said my only option was to buy a dyno from them and then they would come train me to use it. It's a little scary spending 25 grand on a dyno that I don't know how to turn on.

I've checked into schools like MMI but the tuition is outrageous and some guys I've talked to say it isn't worth it. The stuff they teach is pretty elementary and you come out only making $10 an hour. I'd rather just pay to take a seminar or class that last a few weeks or so instead of two years like MMI and still not know alot or how to tune. Any pointers on this would be appreciated as well.

As for the tools, I've had a couple of guys offer to lend me theirs here on the forums the last couple of days but I'll probably do like you said and buy those tools from Georges garage, Jims or this Beatty fellow.
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Old 05-15-2010 | 12:39 AM
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True, but he'll need to grind-down and sharpen the tips for them to fit in the lifter clips to hold them. I didn't buy the magnetic holders either, but it is a simple solution and I doubt if they would magnetize the lifters enough to matter. I would assume HD wouldn't sell them if this was an issue.



Probably can reuse the originals. I did.

If the decision is made to reuse the stock pushrods I would just buy the Fuel Moto cam-install kit, which for $50 includes everything including Torrington bearings. Otherwise you'll need to add a bunch of additional gaskets, etc., to Dawg's list.
I've decided to go with the adjustable
pushrods. Are you saying the list of parts that dawg gave me is not everything I will need parts wise to complete the job?
 
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Old 05-15-2010 | 12:39 AM
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Be careful about changing 07-later cams. There's a couple things that can mess you up. The inner cam bearings have to be pressed in to the right depth and the sprockets have to be properly aligned using different thickness spacers. HD sells a spacer kit. The later TC96 are lots easier to change out then the earlier TC88. I have tools for both, it was easier and cheaper than hauling bike 100 miles and paying someone else to do it.
 
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Old 05-15-2010 | 01:00 AM
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Old 05-15-2010 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1931jamesw
I've decided to go with the adjustable
pushrods. Are you saying the list of parts that dawg gave me is not everything I will need parts wise to complete the job?
It's complete if you're using adjustable pushrods, as in that case there isn't much needed. I was just explaining that if you reuse the stock pushrods you'll need more gaskets, etc. for the rocker area--and if that's the case I would just buy the Fuel Moto kit rather than part it out.

One comment, though--you probably won't need the spacer kit Dawg mentioned. It consists of six different spacers and if you need anything it will be only one in the kit, which can be parted out. In the manual they break-down the spacer part numbers, so another option is to check with your dealer to see if they have them all. If so, just wait 'til you're into the job and buy what you'll need, but in most cases I've seen the stock spacer is the correct one. OTOH the kit is only about $10, so you might think it is worth it to just buy it and be covered.

For the last cam job I helped with the guy had an agreement with his HD shop that if he didn't need any spacers he could return the kit unopened. He didn't need any and that's what he did. That's probably the best option if your dealer will agree to it, as that way you'll have all spacers available.
 
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Old 05-15-2010 | 09:40 AM
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I've got a discount coupon that's about to expire I'd like to use. I know it may not be needed but I'd like to go ahead and get the SE clutch spring. Can someone give me the part number for that for my 09 RKC? And also the exhaust gaskets part number. If I changethe clutch spring will I need a new primary gasket? If so what's that part #? thanks once again.
 
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Old 05-15-2010 | 12:34 PM
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I've got a discount coupon that's about to expire I'd like to use. I know it may not be needed but I'd like to go ahead and get the SE clutch spring. Can someone give me the part number for that for my 09 RKC? And also the exhaust gaskets part number. If I changethe clutch spring will I need a new primary gasket? If so what's that part #? thanks once again.
Do you have not have the HD Maintance Manual? Before wrenching on your ride, get one. While your at it, buy the parts manual too.

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Old 05-15-2010 | 02:28 PM
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One comment, though--you probably won't need the spacer kit Dawg mentioned. It consists of six different spacers and if you need anything it will be only one in the kit, which can be parted out. In the manual they break-down the spacer part numbers, so another option is to check with your dealer to see if they have them all. If so, just wait 'til you're into the job and buy what you'll need, but in most cases I've seen the stock spacer is the correct one. OTOH the kit is only about $10, so you might think it is worth it to just buy it and be covered.


Spacer kit (5 spacers) = $8.95

Individual spacers = $5.00 each

True that you only need one, but do the math (taking into consideration the time figuring out which one, then gas to go get it at the dealer).
 
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Old 05-15-2010 | 02:41 PM
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Dawg or anyone got the gasket/o-ring P/Ns we'll need?

Also, if you go the "blind bearing puller" route how do you install the new bearings? Put them on the end of a cam and tap them in or something? How do you make sure you get the right seat depth?

I actually have a puller, but not an installer. Just trying to figure out how to get the new ones in without buying another tool if I can.

To date I have the cams and a puller tool.

I guess I need:
1) Bearings and something to install them with.
2) Cam cover gasket (kit?)
3) SE tapered adjustable push rods.
4) the clip to hold the tappets up.
5) a PCV with correct map.
6) cam gear spacer kit.

Might try to tackle this soon. I'm going to do 255s in my wifes bike and if I like it (she will, np), try to find another set of 255s. If not I will try the TW6-6.

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