2011 Touring Models will have a 103 engine.
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Harley specs the 96"er at 92 foot pounds at the engine and the 103"er at 102 pounds of torque at the engine, about a 10% increase in torque. with the added cubes and the added compression 9.2 up to 9.6/9.7. There were plenty of people saying the 96" was no stronger than the 88 when it first came out although the torque numbers HD publishes showed a 15%+ increase, so it wouldn't be the first time you heard this, nobody wants to think there current engine can't hang and the newer motor is "significantly" stronger. put a stage one with pipes, AC and tuner or stage two with cams on top of that 103 and you get another good 10-15% bump. obviously they are not a HQ, Tman or GMR motor with headwork and bigger valves.
Depending on your perspective, the 103 motor is available either in most or all of the 2011 touring lineup excluding the CVO's of course. What I don't understand is that this is being treated like headline news. The 103 motor has been accessible for several years via the 103 big bore kit for a few(?) dollars more than being charged in 2011 and you weren't limited to any specific model.
It's also my understanding, and this one is for the real mechanics one of which I'm not, that the factory 103 isn't a "significant" upgrade in performance from the factory 96. Install the big bore kit on any 96, change the cams with possibly a little head work and you will get a bike that runs rings around a factory 103 without sacrificing reliability.
Real mechanics help me out on this one. Accurate? Not even close?
Getting an underperforming 103 from the factory is headline news?????
I'm just trying to understand all of this excitement. If Harley had made the 103 the standard touring motor without increasing the price, now that would be headlines!!!!
It's also my understanding, and this one is for the real mechanics one of which I'm not, that the factory 103 isn't a "significant" upgrade in performance from the factory 96. Install the big bore kit on any 96, change the cams with possibly a little head work and you will get a bike that runs rings around a factory 103 without sacrificing reliability.
Real mechanics help me out on this one. Accurate? Not even close?
Getting an underperforming 103 from the factory is headline news?????
I'm just trying to understand all of this excitement. If Harley had made the 103 the standard touring motor without increasing the price, now that would be headlines!!!!
Last edited by bmaier; 07-28-2010 at 04:51 PM.
#202
2011 Touring Model had a 103 cu inch motor, posted back in April. Still lots of CROW left for the negative, *****, bitchers in this thread!
Last edited by XRider; 08-02-2010 at 06:32 PM.
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#204
I'd believe the Harley web site over another. The Power Pac is listed as N/A on the Electraglides, and it comes standard on the Ultra Limited.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...de.html#/specs
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...de.html#/specs
#206
I'd believe the Harley web site over another. The Power Pac is listed as N/A on the Electraglides, and it comes standard on the Ultra Limited.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...de.html#/specs
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...de.html#/specs
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#209
Crow left for all the Negative ***** Beotchers
From April 2010:
Plenty of Crow left for all the negative, ***** bitchers in this thread!
Plenty of Crow left for all the negative, ***** bitchers in this thread!
#210
I will forever keep my mouth shut from now on to avoid all the crap from these dumb azzzzz.