Just got finished installing the boom audio intercom system 77107-09. During the install I decided to put a cb in. It seems that you cannot do it with the 77107-09 you need the 77108-09. My inital plan was to install the music intercom system 77107-09 and then wait awhile for the cb. Plans changed and decided to get the CB. Now I have to purchase another system 77108-09 to make this happen, I either blame this on poor comprehension skills on my part (in the book it looks like it could be done), or poor communication skills on the part of HD. In any event just wanted to let anyone interested know if you ever plan to install a cb get the 77108-09 and purchase the non-ultra overlay. On a side note the installation was easy as long as you understand some very basic wiring, and know how to use a wrench.

 

Bummer. What are you going to do? I ask because you could probably salvage the CB install using the non-Ultra overlay harness and modifying the connectors that plug into the supplied overlay harness from the 77107-09 kit. Functionally, the switches are the same (left hand PTT/squelch, rider headset connector, passenger headset connector, and passenger PTT/vol switch).

Good luck with the project.

Carl

 

how do you like the intercom, I was thinking about the bluetooth but I hate the thought of have to make sure there charged all the time

 

Probably going to just buy the right kit, just not right now just going to hold onto the CB for right now. Was thinking about running some connectors and doing some splicing but in the end will probably just buy a new one and sell the old one on ebay. For the other question I will get the intercom done Saturday, so I will let you know how it works out.

 

77108-09
Fits '07-later Touring vehicles equipped with Advanced Audio Radio and Advanced Audio Bike-to-Bike Communications and/or Advanced Audio XM® Satellite Radio Kit with Wiring Harness P/N 70169-06. Requires installation of Intercom System Flash P/N 76441-06/DT.

77107-09
Fits '07-later Touring vehicles equipped with Advanced Audio Radio. Requires installation of Intercom System Flash P/N 76441-06/DT. Models equipped with Advanced Audio XM® Satellite Radio P/N 76404-06 and/or Advanced Audio Bike-to-Bike Communications Kit P/N 76416-06C should use Advanced Audio Intercom Add-On Kit P/N 77108-09.

What was the difference? Were there fewer plugs or something? The 77107-09 is actually 20 more to boot.

 

That is what I thought 20 dollars more, should have everything I need in case of an upgrade. Not sure what the exact difference is since no picture of the harness itself comes with any of the instructions. My guess is no 32 pin connect for the rear of the radio since the $110 dollar non-ultra harness takes care of that.

 

I haven't figured out completely yet if most H-D sources of information really knows what the heck they're talking about. I'm also about convinced that they only tell you what they want you to know in order to trap you to buy more accessories. Some of the descriptions and information leave a lot to the imagination.

For example. When I called Chicago Harley Davidson parts guys, I ask what all I need to install an XM satellite module in my '09 Ultra Classic. They told me I need the module that comes with an antenna and I would need to purchase an antenna mounting bracket. Had it all on order for a couple of weeks. I finally received the order and shortly after, I found out I need an overlay harness. I went to the nearest dealer that said they had the harness I needed in stock. Purchased it, got home and found out it was the wrong harness.

 

If you get the 77107-09 kit, you are not going to spend the extra money to buy the CB kit, so they want an extra $20 for the privilege to not spend more money.

 

Yes, the harness supplied with the 77107-09 does not have a connector for the CB module.

As for the price difference in the kits, I installed the 77108-09 (for the CB application) and the price difference you mention is accurate but misleading IMO. The reason I say that is the CB BAMI kit requires separate purchase of the non-Ultra overlay harness, 70169-06, and costs about $120. The 77107-09 BAMI kit doesn't require this non-Ultra overlay harness.

If the OP took a pic of the parts in his kit, it would probably show that the intercom parts, specifically the rider headset connector and the passenger headset connector and passenger controls use a harness that connects to the 35-wire pin-out on the Harman Kardon headunit but has no facility for connecting the CB module to it.

The reason for my earlier suggestion about modifying the wiring supplied with the OP's 77107-09 kit is that the kit does have the 35 wire connector for the HK head unit. What it doesn't have is the connector for plugging in the CB module's harness to the harness supplied with the kit. That simply means that instead of using the harness to plug the CB module connector to (as done with the non-Ultra overlay harness), he could directly wire the CB module to the appropriate slots in the 35-wire connector.

HD sells the mating connector and wire terminals used for connecting the CB module's connector to the non-Ultra overlay harness, as well as the sockets that go on the ends of the wires that are inserted into the 35 wire connector that plugs into the back of the HK head unit.

If you want the p/n's for the connectors/pins/sockets, just check the HD parts manual pages showing the Ultra's CB connector (specifially the connetor into which the CB module connector plugs into) and the sockets used in the 35 wire connector (Ultra connector) that plugs into the back of the HK head unit.

This post makes it sound more complicated than it would be. The non-Ultra overlay harness is simply a 35 wire connector to plug into the back of the HK head unit (like the harness included with the OP's kit) with a bunch of specific connectors ("branches" if you will) for plugging in the rider headset connector, passenger headset connector, CB module, XM module, etc. The OP's kit's harness has the same 35 wire connector but without the "branch" for connecting the CB module. With the right parts and some wire, he can create his own "branch" for connecting the CB module to the 35 wire connector and have the CB function.

I haven't installed the kit the OP has, but I have compared the installation instructions between the two kits and the parts lists for them. And I've done some wiring modification to the 35 wire connector (changing the rear speaker outputs to go directly to a Hog Tunes amp so that the HT fairing lower speakers would be the "rear" speakers and allow me to use the fader control), and modified the BAMI kit to work on my '04 EG even though the kit is for '07 and newer models.

So, I can't say for sure that these suggestions would allow the OP to have CB even though he didn't buy the 77108-09 kit because I haven't done that specific project. But I am familiar with the functions involved in having the CB installed and the only thing lacking in his 77107-09 kit installation is the ability of connecting the CB module to the appropriate wires in the 35 wire pin-outs of the HK head unit and offered a solution for doing so without using the non-Ultra overlay harness.

Carl

 

Thanks for the post Carl, just used some new connectors and worked the wiring for the cb, works fine, many wires to splice and connect to, some are linked together on the harness, not sure why they are linked, I think in the original plans for this harness they had other ideas? CB is up and running, Intercom was flashed today works great (even though the wife put the connector in wrong and could not figure out why we had had HUGE feedback problem). For the question I had about the Intercom system it works great and I would go with this system VS aftermarket. I will post pictures of the first install without splices and connectors for the CB. I took no pictures of the splices but will be glad to help if anyone needs it(word of warning I am an engineer and this still took alot of thought and guess work, things dont match up from the service manual and the wiring harness when you cut the insulation off)