Non DOT Helmet wearer's & cops...opinions
#91
03-20-2010 | 08:50 AM
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From: Northern Alabama
What about speed laws? What would be the result if someone decided they wish to run 90 or 100 mph in front of your family because they didn't agree with speed restrictions?
We need to grow up and abide by rules for something simple as this and quit attempting a pssing contest here.
#92
03-20-2010 | 09:06 AM
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From: Slidell, Louisiana
I am in total agreement here. We all live by many laws that affect our daily lives while driving. Some are as simple as stop signs. What would be the effects of random people deciding they didn't agree with cities installing & the police enforcing the stop sign requirements?
What about speed laws? What would be the result if someone decided they wish to run 90 or 100 mph in front of your family because they didn't agree with speed restrictions?
We need to grow up and abide by rules for something simple as this and quit attempting a pssing contest here.
What about speed laws? What would be the result if someone decided they wish to run 90 or 100 mph in front of your family because they didn't agree with speed restrictions?
We need to grow up and abide by rules for something simple as this and quit attempting a pssing contest here.
#93
03-20-2010 | 09:21 AM
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Is this a helmet thread? Or a good cop bad cop thread?
Unfortunately those of us who aren't on parole or on our way to prison, don't interface with the Police enough to see the difference. When we do, it's only going to be the dicks that stop us for seatbelts, helmets, proper eyewear, rolling stops and so forth.
Changing the laws would be great. Unfortunately our system makes that all but impossible. Abate has had what 20 - 30 years to fight this? When the few in power choose to impose their will, we are stuck with it.
This is small time stuff. We'll see who the Good and Bad cops are when our protection from illegal search and seizure gets trampled and our guns are taken.
Unfortunately those of us who aren't on parole or on our way to prison, don't interface with the Police enough to see the difference. When we do, it's only going to be the dicks that stop us for seatbelts, helmets, proper eyewear, rolling stops and so forth.
Changing the laws would be great. Unfortunately our system makes that all but impossible. Abate has had what 20 - 30 years to fight this? When the few in power choose to impose their will, we are stuck with it.
This is small time stuff. We'll see who the Good and Bad cops are when our protection from illegal search and seizure gets trampled and our guns are taken.
#94
03-20-2010 | 11:46 AM
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: lewisville, nc
if you get cought wearing a non DOT helmet and want to fight it contact BOLT bikers of a lesser Tolerance. attached is a you tube video link of a helmet stop they set up in California.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXsAcK1prY
they go around and purposly get helmet tickets and fight them in court so we can earn the right to choose what we want to wear or not wear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXsAcK1prY
they go around and purposly get helmet tickets and fight them in court so we can earn the right to choose what we want to wear or not wear.
#95
03-20-2010 | 12:38 PM
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Your comment makes me sad. I can't help but wonder if you were living in Boston in the 1770's would you have called the participants of the Boston Tea Party "a bunch of dorks" too? Were the soldiers that landed on Omaha Beach a bunch of dorks, or brave men fighting for your freedom? Get a clue!
#96
03-20-2010 | 01:15 PM
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From: Northern MI
Let me get this straight... you take a crap plastic skid lid that will get you killed if you land on your head and put a DOT sticker on it so it looks real?
Why don't you just wear a real DOT approved helmet that will offer protection?
Let me ask you, did you remove your real seat belts in your car and replace them with lawn chair webbing? How about the airbags? Did you rip them out and replace them with balloons? I just don't get the point.
Why don't you just wear a real DOT approved helmet that will offer protection?
Let me ask you, did you remove your real seat belts in your car and replace them with lawn chair webbing? How about the airbags? Did you rip them out and replace them with balloons? I just don't get the point.
#99
03-21-2010 | 05:50 AM
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From: Northern Alabama
Wearing a helmet that is of an approved design is about safety and nothing more. What is not being discussed is that there are worse thing than being killed. I deal with providing care for my 26 year old daughter (US Navy veteran now retired) who received a brain injury shortly afer 9-11 attack. If anyone wants to see the real reason for protecting your head all they need to do is stop by the James Haley veterans TBI/SCI center in Tampa, FL and witness the condition of all together too many of our veterans and there families.
If you are willing to spend the next 40 years of your life drooling out the side of your mouth and having everyone that loves you in anguish and agony for the remainder of there life every time they visit you, then fine wear your stupid beanie.
My daughter was in a coma for three months because of someone elses stupid actions and it was only through God that she is alive today. Will she (or perhaps you) ever have a normal life now? The answer to that is NO.
Speaking of visits and friends? They will definately stop as your so called friends get on with there 'normal' lives and leave you behind sitting in a corner with perhaps no idea of what is going on.
We all take for granted such things as eating and other bodily functions. Do you really want to have someone who may or may not really care any longer feeding you oatmeal or ground up paste, then bathing you and wiping your other end for the next 40 years?
Do you really want to put your parents/wife/children through all of that just because you are so pig headed that you want to prove how 'macho' you are that you are not going to let 'the man' tell you that you have to wear a helmet?
We go to the James Haley Center in Tampa every month and there is a complete new group of veterans and there families dealing with the terrible aftermath of TBIs and until you see it time and time again you can not even imagine the grief it presents.
So I close in saying this. Go ahead and show 'the man' (AND your entire family) how tough you are and wear your beanie. Just don't expect too much sympathy as you sit in the corner drooling hoping againt hope that maybe today someone you love will stop in and visit even if you are 100% unable to respond in any way. Oh, maybe you just blinked your left eye? Nah, that was just nothing. That happens to him all the time. No one is there, belt him in a chair and push him into the corner for the rest of the shift he never moves.
HELLO! HELLO! HELLO? I am in here can't anyone see that? SOMEONE? ANYONE?
If you are willing to spend the next 40 years of your life drooling out the side of your mouth and having everyone that loves you in anguish and agony for the remainder of there life every time they visit you, then fine wear your stupid beanie.
My daughter was in a coma for three months because of someone elses stupid actions and it was only through God that she is alive today. Will she (or perhaps you) ever have a normal life now? The answer to that is NO.
Speaking of visits and friends? They will definately stop as your so called friends get on with there 'normal' lives and leave you behind sitting in a corner with perhaps no idea of what is going on.
We all take for granted such things as eating and other bodily functions. Do you really want to have someone who may or may not really care any longer feeding you oatmeal or ground up paste, then bathing you and wiping your other end for the next 40 years?
Do you really want to put your parents/wife/children through all of that just because you are so pig headed that you want to prove how 'macho' you are that you are not going to let 'the man' tell you that you have to wear a helmet?
We go to the James Haley Center in Tampa every month and there is a complete new group of veterans and there families dealing with the terrible aftermath of TBIs and until you see it time and time again you can not even imagine the grief it presents.
So I close in saying this. Go ahead and show 'the man' (AND your entire family) how tough you are and wear your beanie. Just don't expect too much sympathy as you sit in the corner drooling hoping againt hope that maybe today someone you love will stop in and visit even if you are 100% unable to respond in any way. Oh, maybe you just blinked your left eye? Nah, that was just nothing. That happens to him all the time. No one is there, belt him in a chair and push him into the corner for the rest of the shift he never moves.
HELLO! HELLO! HELLO? I am in here can't anyone see that? SOMEONE? ANYONE?
#100
03-21-2010 | 06:41 AM
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Joined: May 2009
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From: Kansas City, KS
Wearing a helmet that is of an approved design is about safety and nothing more. What is not being discussed is that there are worse thing than being killed. I deal with providing care for my 26 year old daughter (US Navy veteran now retired) who received a brain injury shortly afer 9-11 attack. If anyone wants to see the real reason for protecting your head all they need to do is stop by the James Haley veterans TBI/SCI center in Tampa, FL and witness the condition of all together too many of our veterans and there families.
If you are willing to spend the next 40 years of your life drooling out the side of your mouth and having everyone that loves you in anguish and agony for the remainder of there life every time they visit you, then fine wear your stupid beanie.
My daughter was in a coma for three months because of someone elses stupid actions and it was only through God that she is alive today. Will she (or perhaps you) ever have a normal life now? The answer to that is NO.
Speaking of visits and friends? They will definately stop as your so called friends get on with there 'normal' lives and leave you behind sitting in a corner with perhaps no idea of what is going on.
We all take for granted such things as eating and other bodily functions. Do you really want to have someone who may or may not really care any longer feeding you oatmeal or ground up paste, then bathing you and wiping your other end for the next 40 years?
Do you really want to put your parents/wife/children through all of that just because you are so pig headed that you want to prove how 'macho' you are that you are not going to let 'the man' tell you that you have to wear a helmet?
We go to the James Haley Center in Tampa every month and there is a complete new group of veterans and there families dealing with the terrible aftermath of TBIs and until you see it time and time again you can not even imagine the grief it presents.
So I close in saying this. Go ahead and show 'the man' (AND your entire family) how tough you are and wear your beanie. Just don't expect too much sympathy as you sit in the corner drooling hoping againt hope that maybe today someone you love will stop in and visit even if you are 100% unable to respond in any way. Oh, maybe you just blinked your left eye? Nah, that was just nothing. That happens to him all the time. No one is there, belt him in a chair and push him into the corner for the rest of the shift he never moves.
HELLO! HELLO! HELLO? I am in here can't anyone see that? SOMEONE? ANYONE?
If you are willing to spend the next 40 years of your life drooling out the side of your mouth and having everyone that loves you in anguish and agony for the remainder of there life every time they visit you, then fine wear your stupid beanie.
My daughter was in a coma for three months because of someone elses stupid actions and it was only through God that she is alive today. Will she (or perhaps you) ever have a normal life now? The answer to that is NO.
Speaking of visits and friends? They will definately stop as your so called friends get on with there 'normal' lives and leave you behind sitting in a corner with perhaps no idea of what is going on.
We all take for granted such things as eating and other bodily functions. Do you really want to have someone who may or may not really care any longer feeding you oatmeal or ground up paste, then bathing you and wiping your other end for the next 40 years?
Do you really want to put your parents/wife/children through all of that just because you are so pig headed that you want to prove how 'macho' you are that you are not going to let 'the man' tell you that you have to wear a helmet?
We go to the James Haley Center in Tampa every month and there is a complete new group of veterans and there families dealing with the terrible aftermath of TBIs and until you see it time and time again you can not even imagine the grief it presents.
So I close in saying this. Go ahead and show 'the man' (AND your entire family) how tough you are and wear your beanie. Just don't expect too much sympathy as you sit in the corner drooling hoping againt hope that maybe today someone you love will stop in and visit even if you are 100% unable to respond in any way. Oh, maybe you just blinked your left eye? Nah, that was just nothing. That happens to him all the time. No one is there, belt him in a chair and push him into the corner for the rest of the shift he never moves.
HELLO! HELLO! HELLO? I am in here can't anyone see that? SOMEONE? ANYONE?
There is always an argument about shoulda coulda woulda, maybe we should just wear full body armor 24/7 just in case?