Cam Upgrade or Extended Warranty???
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As a previous poster mentioned, warranty AND extended service plan repair/coverage issues are heavily influenced by the dealer's service manager. That's especially true with the extended service plan since the dealer doesn't deal with HD on the ESP. He deals with a representative of the underwriter of the ESP and replaced parts aren't returned to the underwriter as they are with MOCO warranty repairs. The underwriter uses auditors who may, but seldom, visit the dealer to authorize a covered repair. Usually, authorization to repair under the ESP is done by a phone call from the service department to the underwriter.
I do virtually all of my own work on my bike, but I also enjoy a good relationship with the service dept. at my local dealer. If you are a stranger to them, it's less likely that you will get the benefit of a favorable judgment from them when you have a warranty or ESP repair issue.
ESP exclusions are very harshly worded. However, if you did swap cams, had an excellent relationship with the service department, and the engine or other issue wasn't directly related to the cams you installed, the likelihood is you wouldn't have a problem having the repair covered.
I bought the ESP when I bought my bike in '05 and recouped the cost over the course of replacing a starter motror, cam chain tensioners, and one or two smaller issues.
Consider the dollars you would get for the ESP refund against the mileage you expect to ride and the not so unusual covered repairs that may arise over the term of the ESP and choose accordingly. If you are a high mileage rider, that would tend toward retaining the ESP. If you are a relatively low mileage rider (say less than 5K per year), that would tend toward canceling the ESP and taking the refund. Lastly, if you anticipate selling the bike before the expiration of the ESP, a private buyer would find the ESP and attractive feature on you bike assuming the factory warranty had expired.
Carl
I do virtually all of my own work on my bike, but I also enjoy a good relationship with the service dept. at my local dealer. If you are a stranger to them, it's less likely that you will get the benefit of a favorable judgment from them when you have a warranty or ESP repair issue.
ESP exclusions are very harshly worded. However, if you did swap cams, had an excellent relationship with the service department, and the engine or other issue wasn't directly related to the cams you installed, the likelihood is you wouldn't have a problem having the repair covered.
I bought the ESP when I bought my bike in '05 and recouped the cost over the course of replacing a starter motror, cam chain tensioners, and one or two smaller issues.
Consider the dollars you would get for the ESP refund against the mileage you expect to ride and the not so unusual covered repairs that may arise over the term of the ESP and choose accordingly. If you are a high mileage rider, that would tend toward retaining the ESP. If you are a relatively low mileage rider (say less than 5K per year), that would tend toward canceling the ESP and taking the refund. Lastly, if you anticipate selling the bike before the expiration of the ESP, a private buyer would find the ESP and attractive feature on you bike assuming the factory warranty had expired.
Carl
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Would they not be able to tell if they were tearing the motor apart for a repair?
I would assume that one of the first things they would have to do is pull out the cams for motor repairs. Say if I twist the crankshaft or something. Then I have it in the shop and they have it all torn down...then find my cams and say....no warranty and you owe us this much....
Would this not likely be the case?
I would assume that one of the first things they would have to do is pull out the cams for motor repairs. Say if I twist the crankshaft or something. Then I have it in the shop and they have it all torn down...then find my cams and say....no warranty and you owe us this much....
Would this not likely be the case?
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Dennis
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my dealer told me this when they did my build. if i go to a after market cams other then h-d even if they install them u void your warranty the only thing they will cover is the labor for the original install. if u stick with h-d or screamin eagle you still have the warranty. if i was u i would look into h-d parts only they do have some good cams.i used the 259e cams and very pleased with the performance of my scoot. plenty low end and mid range grunt and good top end these cams really come on at about 2600 rpm . just something to think about altough woods cams are awsome. but i would think about your warrnty the factory one anyway. good luck and ride safe.
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