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Old 02-03-2010 | 11:43 PM
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George, in view of the fact that you have an '09 with lower (higher numerical) gearing than '07 and '08 Touring models, the SE-255's may have less appeal for you than owners of the earlier models who have installed those cams.

The lower gearing multiplies torque faster on your bike than the older models. Baker Transmission has an explanation of this mechanical advantage to explain the benefit of going to a lower than stock gearing by changing the compensator sprocket:

http://www.bakerdrivetrain.com/drive...-sprockets.htm

I mention the gearing difference because the dyno sheet comparison won't provide a valid comparison to how that cam will accelerate your bike compared to an older 96" six-speed Touring model with the same cams, SE 255's or others for that matter.

HQ-525 cams were introduced specifically to take advantage of the lower gearing of the '09 and '10 models. With the later closing intake valve, the torque band is moved farther to the right than would be the case with the SE 255 cams.

Good luck with your research.

Edit: This post is NOT to say why you should not install the SE 255 cams. Frankly, since you have them already it's unlikely that you'd spend $300 to buy different cams IMO. However, the different gearing in the '09-'10 Touring models may be relevant to you and others in their cam choice.

Edit 2: If you use the BigBoyz website information, the '09-'10 has a 3% mechanical advantage over the '07-08 based on the lower (higher numerical) gearing. In essence, and all else being equal, the stock '09-'10 will ride as if it has 3% more torque than an '07 or '08, at least in the riding ranges most use. Due to gearing, the newer models' top speed will be 3% less than the older models'.
http://www.bigboyzcycles.com/Gearratio.htm
 

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Old 02-04-2010 | 06:21 AM
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well explained iclick and i could'nt agree more
 
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Old 02-04-2010 | 07:22 AM
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Harleypingman you made some good points on 09> gearing diffs that are indeed interesting in cam choices.
 

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Old 02-04-2010 | 10:04 AM
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With the new lower gearing for the 09's & 10's

How would the Andrews 21 fit in to the mix ??

Compaired to the others on this list of cams for a 09 or 10,,
 
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Old 02-04-2010 | 04:41 PM
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I want to add one more to the mix,, Andrews 54

Fullsac seems to like them but don't see many people on this fourm using them ???
 
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Old 02-04-2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GEORGEW
I want to add one more to the mix,, Andrews 54
The TW54H isn't theoretically a bolt-in cam, as Andrews claims it needs "hi-lift" springs. OTOH, with a .555" lift, only .05" more than the SE255 which is a true bolt-in cam, there may be no problems. Some claim you can go as far as .575" with the stock beehive springs. That said, the 42° intake close spec would likely lead to a decrease in low-end TQ in a stock engine.
 

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Old 02-04-2010 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hog-doc
Hey since were local to each other, wanna see first hand were a 96 w/255's "runs out of steam" compared to those 500's?
Ohhhh no he didn't!!!!
 
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Old 02-04-2010 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RDM
If you have a garage, you already have a place. It's a straight forward job if you take your time.
So are you coming to Naples or am I going to Clearwater?
 
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Old 02-04-2010 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawdawg
Ohhhh no he didn't!!!!

Oh yes I did!!!
 
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Old 02-04-2010 | 07:44 PM
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