Did you add an Oil Cooler to your Bagger?
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07-23-2006 | 10:03 AM
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07-23-2006 | 10:30 AM
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RE: Did you add an Oil Cooler to your Bagger?
I have close to 8000 miles on mine and its never gone into HM on me and you know how the traffic is in Austin. Went out to Big Bend about a month ago and no heat problems. I think if you run a good synthetic you want have any problems. And I don't run the HD syn.
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07-23-2006 | 10:31 AM
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RE: Did you add an Oil Cooler to your Bagger?
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I need to clear something up here....
Oil coolers do not work in stop and go traffic.
They only work when there's enough air movement to flow through the coils of the cooler.
I need to clear something up here....
Oil coolers do not work in stop and go traffic.
They only work when there's enough air movement to flow through the coils of the cooler.
I plan on adding a fan to my oil cooler that does come on when my cylinder fan comes on.
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07-23-2006 | 10:53 AM
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RE: Did you add an Oil Cooler to your Bagger?
I believe oil coolers come on most SE models. I went with a Jagg unit a while back and am pleased with the results. A thermostat is a must. Mine came without (the new ones have them) so I have to resort to a cover in cool weather.
A cooler does help in traffic if only because of the surface area available for some help. If you live where it gets hot, a cooler should be considered.
A cooler does help in traffic if only because of the surface area available for some help. If you live where it gets hot, a cooler should be considered.
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07-23-2006 | 11:07 AM
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RE: Did you add an Oil Cooler to your Bagger?
Having looked at various coolers, I like the idea of modifying the front engine guard to act as the cooler. Instead of using the jag adapter or thermostat, You can get the chrome oil filter mount for the super premium kit (62895-03b) for $204 at Zanotti. It has the thermostat built in and the cooler lines are routed in a better position than the jag adapter or the adapter in the regular H-D cooler kit. The part number is 26015-03. These oil cooler kits feature are designed for installation on 1999 and later Twin Cam 88 Touring model motorcycles. The entire kit is $338 from Zanotti. Just depends on what look you want.
Regardless of air flow or not, there will still be an exchange of heat from the oil cooler fins to the surrounding cooler air. The cooler is more effective with the bike moving, but to say the oil cooler doesn't function if the bike is stopped is wrong. It's a heat exchanger and it will continue to shed heat, although less effectively.
Regardless of air flow or not, there will still be an exchange of heat from the oil cooler fins to the surrounding cooler air. The cooler is more effective with the bike moving, but to say the oil cooler doesn't function if the bike is stopped is wrong. It's a heat exchanger and it will continue to shed heat, although less effectively.
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07-23-2006 | 11:30 AM
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RE: Did you add an Oil Cooler to your Bagger?
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I was walking out of my local Harley Dealership this morning and there was rider and his wife who had just purchased an 06 Electra Glide a few months earlier. Since I am taking delivery of an 07 EGC in a few days, I was checking out his bike and ask him what were the main upgrades he made before the bike left the store.
Along with the 95 kit and Stage One upgrade, he also had an oil cooler installed. He strongly recommended I add an oil cooler. He considered it essential for the hot days here in Texas, and said it really helped keep his engine oil running 20 - 30 degrees cooler.
That's about a $350 upgrade which I had no plan to install. I have read several threads on this forum relating to the heat management system kicking in during hot, stop and go driving situations.
That got me curious as to what percentage of Touring Bike owners have felt the need to add an oil cooler.
My initial take is that if a bagger needed an oil cooler, it would come with one stock--or is that a naive observation to have?
$350 is a lot cheaper than a new engine, so I would welcome some knowledgeable input from you bagger riders out there.
Harley would make engine an option if they could [:@] as a way to sell you more stuff and reap the extra profitt. So no Harley would not include it if needed. Yes I have installed one from Jag. [Jag makes some of Harleys oil coolers for Harley.]
I was walking out of my local Harley Dealership this morning and there was rider and his wife who had just purchased an 06 Electra Glide a few months earlier. Since I am taking delivery of an 07 EGC in a few days, I was checking out his bike and ask him what were the main upgrades he made before the bike left the store.
Along with the 95 kit and Stage One upgrade, he also had an oil cooler installed. He strongly recommended I add an oil cooler. He considered it essential for the hot days here in Texas, and said it really helped keep his engine oil running 20 - 30 degrees cooler.
That's about a $350 upgrade which I had no plan to install. I have read several threads on this forum relating to the heat management system kicking in during hot, stop and go driving situations.
That got me curious as to what percentage of Touring Bike owners have felt the need to add an oil cooler.
My initial take is that if a bagger needed an oil cooler, it would come with one stock--or is that a naive observation to have?
$350 is a lot cheaper than a new engine, so I would welcome some knowledgeable input from you bagger riders out there.
Harley would make engine an option if they could [:@] as a way to sell you more stuff and reap the extra profitt. So no Harley would not include it if needed. Yes I have installed one from Jag. [Jag makes some of Harleys oil coolers for Harley.]
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07-23-2006 | 12:20 PM
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07-23-2006 | 12:25 PM
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RE: Did you add an Oil Cooler to your Bagger?
Oil temps on TC's tend to be high compared to Evos. My Evo rarely goes above 165 in winter, 185 in summer, and 200 is the highest I've seen it, thus I don't need a cooler. OTOH, if temps regularly go above 200 I would install one with a 185-deg. thermostat, even if you use synthetic oil. If you use fossil oil I would consider it a must on a TC, and if I had a one it would be one of the first items I would install even though I use synthetic oil.
Installing one without a thermostat is a very bad idea, because it will decelerate oil heating to normal operating temps, and in cool weather decreases mileage and may contaminate the oil with more gas (from enriched mixture) and water than normal. The oil has additives to absorb the water, which is a byproduct of combustion, and acids that result from mixing it with the sulphur in gas--but it can go only so far. Doing a lab test on oil will tell you much, including the TBN (total base number), which is a reading of the oil's ability to absorb acids.
