View Poll Results: ABS vs Non ABS
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ABS vs. Non-ABS
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Gary D.
#43
My 2010 Chevy Silverado has drum brakes in the rear. When I traded my 06 suburban with discs in the rear they needed the backing plates replaced and to do that you have to pull the axles. When I asked the dealer why a 2010 has drum brakes he said its gonna cost you $800 to fix your rear discs. Do you still want discs? So i guess new technology isnt always a good thing.
Gary D.
Gary D.
And that's why I don't drive a Chevy anymore.
I've got two bikes, one with ABS and one without. I wouldn't own another touring bike without ABS. I'd love to find an aftermarket system I could retrofit to the 'Train.
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#45
I hate to dredge up an old thread - but there are some truly ignorant people out there. Several people think it's just personal preference or an opinion - it isn't. All the facts are well proven now. Just a couple points to make.
- the only place ABS is NOT ALWAYS better is in snow or on dirt where not locking can lengthen stopping distances. However, even there it will keep you in a straight line. On a bike, locking the front is never good.
- No matter how long you've been riding - or how much track time you have - you'll be able to stop faster with ABS. In testing ABS systems compared to the same bike without it, the only time a non-ABS bike stopped faster was in a CONTROLLED stop with a profesional road racer riding - and it wasn't by much. In the rain, ANYONE riding an ABS bike can stop faster (a lot faster) that even the professional roadracer. In a panic situation, ABS will always haul you down faster.
On a touring bike, there is absolutely no reason to not get ABS unless it just isn't available.
For more info:http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedi...ngDistance.pdf http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/abstests.html
- the only place ABS is NOT ALWAYS better is in snow or on dirt where not locking can lengthen stopping distances. However, even there it will keep you in a straight line. On a bike, locking the front is never good.
- No matter how long you've been riding - or how much track time you have - you'll be able to stop faster with ABS. In testing ABS systems compared to the same bike without it, the only time a non-ABS bike stopped faster was in a CONTROLLED stop with a profesional road racer riding - and it wasn't by much. In the rain, ANYONE riding an ABS bike can stop faster (a lot faster) that even the professional roadracer. In a panic situation, ABS will always haul you down faster.
On a touring bike, there is absolutely no reason to not get ABS unless it just isn't available.
For more info:http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedi...ngDistance.pdf http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/abstests.html
#46
I hate to dredge up an old thread - but there are some truly ignorant people out there. Several people think it's just personal preference or an opinion - it isn't. All the facts are well proven now. Just a couple points to make.
- the only place ABS is NOT ALWAYS better is in snow or on dirt where not locking can lengthen stopping distances. However, even there it will keep you in a straight line. On a bike, locking the front is never good.
- No matter how long you've been riding - or how much track time you have - you'll be able to stop faster with ABS. In testing ABS systems compared to the same bike without it, the only time a non-ABS bike stopped faster was in a CONTROLLED stop with a profesional road racer riding - and it wasn't by much. In the rain, ANYONE riding an ABS bike can stop faster (a lot faster) that even the professional roadracer. In a panic situation, ABS will always haul you down faster.
On a touring bike, there is absolutely no reason to not get ABS unless it just isn't available.
For more info:http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedi...ngDistance.pdf http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/abstests.html
- the only place ABS is NOT ALWAYS better is in snow or on dirt where not locking can lengthen stopping distances. However, even there it will keep you in a straight line. On a bike, locking the front is never good.
- No matter how long you've been riding - or how much track time you have - you'll be able to stop faster with ABS. In testing ABS systems compared to the same bike without it, the only time a non-ABS bike stopped faster was in a CONTROLLED stop with a profesional road racer riding - and it wasn't by much. In the rain, ANYONE riding an ABS bike can stop faster (a lot faster) that even the professional roadracer. In a panic situation, ABS will always haul you down faster.
On a touring bike, there is absolutely no reason to not get ABS unless it just isn't available.
For more info:http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedi...ngDistance.pdf http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/abstests.html
Fortunately I am not in the market for a new Harley, so can set aside choosing for or against ABS for the time being!
#47
I like ABS on my cars and my motorcycle very much, and even if I never used it (I have), the knowledge that it is there is very comforting. BMW has had ABS much longer than H-D and it is standard on all their heavy bikes. I saw a demo behind the Ocean Center at Daytona by BMW when they first introduced ABS (approx. 20 years ago). As a result, I have been hoping for a long time that H-D would offer it someday.
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#49
When I ordered my new 09 FLHR and stipulated ABS the salesmen said what do you want that for? Now it looks like most big touring bikes are ordered with ABS by my dealer.
I like others that have posted here, have ridden ABS bikes for years. I have almost 200K registered on BMW bikes and wouldn't be without it. In fact if Harley hadn't started offering ABS on non cop bikes, I would probably be riding something else right now.
I like others that have posted here, have ridden ABS bikes for years. I have almost 200K registered on BMW bikes and wouldn't be without it. In fact if Harley hadn't started offering ABS on non cop bikes, I would probably be riding something else right now.
#50
When I ordered my new 09 FLHR and stipulated ABS the salesmen said what do you want that for? Now it looks like most big touring bikes are ordered with ABS by my dealer.
I like others that have posted here, have ridden ABS bikes for years. I have almost 200K registered on BMW bikes and wouldn't be without it. In fact if Harley hadn't started offering ABS on non cop bikes, I would probably be riding something else right now.
I like others that have posted here, have ridden ABS bikes for years. I have almost 200K registered on BMW bikes and wouldn't be without it. In fact if Harley hadn't started offering ABS on non cop bikes, I would probably be riding something else right now.