Replacing stock cams with wood 6-6 !!
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an old trick for loading the lifters with oil was to place them in a clean coffee can or whatever you have, put enough oil in the can to cover the lifters, then put an old pushrod in the cup end of the lifter and pump the air out of the lifter, thereby introducing oil into the lifter. the old tricks still work, but with roller lifters, i'm sure you'd have to stuff a rag into the bottom of the can to prevent the lifters from driving you nuts while trying to pump them up with the pushrod. remember, clean can, and clean oil.
If ya don't get the air out, you will have problems on startup. It will run with four collapsed lifters until they fill, IF it makes it that far. When I did my cam support plate upgrade, my lifters were full, but when I did the test run an air bubble worked its way thru the empty cam support plate and new oil pump. About a mile up the road, one of the lifters collapsed, and ran like hell till I got back home. Shut it down, and thought for a min or two, then restarted and it pumped back up again. Lucky for me!
I didn't see anything in your post about installing or using adjustable pushrods, so I won't bother telling you that with adj pushrods it will be difficult to get them adjusted properly without oil in the lifters. But, I will keep my fingers crossed for ya!
Last edited by CroK; 01-05-2010 at 09:18 PM.
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#13
If it were me, I would. In order to set the push rods correctly, they need to have oil in them (the lifters).
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Iclick ,
I will try that , I really dont want to have to remove the lifter blocks to remove the lifters if I dont have to .
the common oil gun that you are speaking of , is it the pump type that has a small tip on it?
Also I need to do a compression test on the cyliners after everything is complete, do you know what numbers I should be getting when I do this?
thanks marty
I will try that , I really dont want to have to remove the lifter blocks to remove the lifters if I dont have to .
the common oil gun that you are speaking of , is it the pump type that has a small tip on it?
Also I need to do a compression test on the cyliners after everything is complete, do you know what numbers I should be getting when I do this?
thanks marty
#17
In general, a twin cam 88 should be runnin around 135-145psi. The manual for mine says anything below 90psi should be serviced. Mine is runnin 115psi front, and 110psi rear. Not smokin or usin oil yet. I've got the parts to rebuild the top end, just waitin for the clutch hub to come in tomorrow to complete what I have planned.
If yer thinkin about turnin the engine over with the starter motor to get the compression readings, I would first use the rear wheel to turn it over by hand a few revolutions, to make sure there's no interference between the hard parts.
I believe iclick was talking about the lifters being loose from the engine. Not sure how you'd do that with them in the engine. Maybe, once you insure there is no interference, and are ready to check the compression, you could turn the engine over with the starter long enuff to get the oil to circulate thru the engine and lifters? I think I'd loosen the push rods before attempting that, then adjust them according to instructions, then do the compression test...
If yer thinkin about turnin the engine over with the starter motor to get the compression readings, I would first use the rear wheel to turn it over by hand a few revolutions, to make sure there's no interference between the hard parts.
I believe iclick was talking about the lifters being loose from the engine. Not sure how you'd do that with them in the engine. Maybe, once you insure there is no interference, and are ready to check the compression, you could turn the engine over with the starter long enuff to get the oil to circulate thru the engine and lifters? I think I'd loosen the push rods before attempting that, then adjust them according to instructions, then do the compression test...
Last edited by CroK; 01-06-2010 at 01:09 PM.
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update: we got everything back together, I took the lifters out last nite and let them soak in oil for about an hour plus I primed (pmped)them about 20 times each, we started it and the lifters were making alot of racket , so we shut it down and and readjusted the pushrods to 3.5 turns in stead of the 2.5 turns and still have a slight tick on the front cylinder, we let it run for about 5 mins to let it heat up, should we let it sit and try it ltr or adjust them more. is this normal ? to have a slight tick to it ?
the compression was 155 rear and 170ish front.
the compression was 155 rear and 170ish front.
Last edited by palatium; 01-09-2010 at 06:30 PM.
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