Labor time to bolt in cam and change pushrods
#61
Hey Dave,
That wasn't aimed at you personally but more of a general explanation, like one is necessary..lol, of why I do not wrench or do other things that a lot of you guys do yourself. I know for some it is enjoyable and also brings a sense of accomplishment, but for folks like me, it usually ends up taking a lot more time and with additional breakage. I appreciate the comment about the pushrods, I did not know this and to me that is what this forum is all about, a place to learn and share.
thanks
That wasn't aimed at you personally but more of a general explanation, like one is necessary..lol, of why I do not wrench or do other things that a lot of you guys do yourself. I know for some it is enjoyable and also brings a sense of accomplishment, but for folks like me, it usually ends up taking a lot more time and with additional breakage. I appreciate the comment about the pushrods, I did not know this and to me that is what this forum is all about, a place to learn and share.
thanks
As far as the pushrods are concerned - I've never had to worry about the ones in my Fatboy because they're the stock rods. I realize that the easier way to do the job is to cut the stock ones out and replace with adjustables but getting them set right and then worrying about them loosening up - it's just not for me. Not to mention if you look at the things - imagine that extra mass riding up and down . . . I know a lot of people out there use them to good effect - I guess it's just me and my engineering background. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Less to go wrong.
Last edited by davessworks; 10-23-2009 at 10:41 PM.
#62
A few comments here, the first being that there hasn't been enough cajoling on this thread to DIY. It is not a terribly complex job on a TC96 and in addition to normal tools requires only an inner-bearing puller/installer if you want to replace them. I considered it highly advisable and bought the tool, replacing the INA stock bearings with Torrington (Timkin) B168's at a cost of $15 for both. The tool was ~$90 but I have heard the seller now rents them, which would be the preferable option if available. Read my cam-change write-up here for more.
I re-used my stock pushrods and that added probably 2-3 hours to the total job. I have no plans of going into the cam chest again on this bike so this seemed like the right course of action, and if I had to do it again I would hold my nose and just do it the same way. It isn't rocket science but is tedious and requires patience, of which I have little. Adjustables are easier but you must buy them (~$150). I do believe the stockers are stronger and they will obviously not become out of adjustment. I've also never heard of metal residue falling on the tops of the lifters when cutting, but if this is a concern just seal the pushrod below the cut with masking tape or whatever.
My dealer quoted me 6 hrs. ($450 plus parts) using adjustables, and at the time I thought that was too high. After doing the job without adjustables and taking a full day and part of another I no longer think this is exorbitant. But for $200-300 for parts (including the cams) you can DIY and feel good about the learning experience when finished.
I re-used my stock pushrods and that added probably 2-3 hours to the total job. I have no plans of going into the cam chest again on this bike so this seemed like the right course of action, and if I had to do it again I would hold my nose and just do it the same way. It isn't rocket science but is tedious and requires patience, of which I have little. Adjustables are easier but you must buy them (~$150). I do believe the stockers are stronger and they will obviously not become out of adjustment. I've also never heard of metal residue falling on the tops of the lifters when cutting, but if this is a concern just seal the pushrod below the cut with masking tape or whatever.
My dealer quoted me 6 hrs. ($450 plus parts) using adjustables, and at the time I thought that was too high. After doing the job without adjustables and taking a full day and part of another I no longer think this is exorbitant. But for $200-300 for parts (including the cams) you can DIY and feel good about the learning experience when finished.
Last edited by iclick; 10-24-2009 at 08:22 AM.
#63
Yeh - but the thread starter specifically stated he didn't want to DIY and that he did want to know what a reasonable number of hours would be from a dealer to do the job. Seems fair to me. As you can probably tell from posts here I plan to DIY. Come to think of it - anyone here living within 100 miles of me got the tool? I'll certainly rent!
#64
Well I suspected as much but I did ask. Al said taking in work is not something he is interested in doing, kinds like a busmans holiday thing and he has enough 'side work' to keep him way busier than he wants to be. I think he works on every cops personal bike, county, state and federal in the NOVA area... He is going to do this job for me as a friend though, so I am gonna gather up my parts and trailer my scoot up there and after he finishes it he will deliver it to his tuner in Dumfries for a trusted dyno and then I'll pick it up from there.
Thanks to all that contributed to this thread, I have gleaned much knowledge from this.
Thanks to all that contributed to this thread, I have gleaned much knowledge from this.
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