anyone add a hydraulic clutch???
#31
08-24-2010, 05:28 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
#32
08-24-2010, 06:24 PM
I'm also looking for the definitive answer for 08 and up Ultras w/ the hyd clutch. My dealer' service mgr put on a hyd clutch for the original owner of my 08, here's what the two configurations are (he used a VRod clutch perch and I assume switch)
1. With no wiring changes, the motor starts only in neutral, clutch in or out.
No 6th gear lite
Cruise control is inop
Red "key" light stays off (no error code)
2. Dealer solution: Ground Blk/Red wire to Blk, bike still starts only in neutral
6th gear lite works OK
Cruise works OK
Red "Key" lite comes on the first time you select 6th gear and stays on continuously until error is cleared
So what is the "Real" solution? I can live with the starting only in neutral, but I would like to get rid of that red Key light. Thanks for any help!
1. With no wiring changes, the motor starts only in neutral, clutch in or out.
No 6th gear lite
Cruise control is inop
Red "key" light stays off (no error code)
2. Dealer solution: Ground Blk/Red wire to Blk, bike still starts only in neutral
6th gear lite works OK
Cruise works OK
Red "Key" lite comes on the first time you select 6th gear and stays on continuously until error is cleared
So what is the "Real" solution? I can live with the starting only in neutral, but I would like to get rid of that red Key light. Thanks for any help!
#33
08-24-2010, 07:41 PM
#34
08-24-2010, 08:07 PM
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#35
08-26-2010, 12:03 PM
Just to clarify, am I correct to assume that you discovered the stock switch on the '08 works with the hydraulic clutch conversion? I have a 2010 and am curious about any glitches a conversion might open. In particular the cruise control cutout, starter cutout, security system, and 6th gear lights all are affected by this switch so I appreciate all the advice I can gather before tearing apart a perfectly good system.
Of course, the bigger question is: did you find the change to hydraulic worthwhile?
Thanks
Jim
Of course, the bigger question is: did you find the change to hydraulic worthwhile?
Thanks
Jim
On the clutch switch on 08's the CVO and the regular Ultra are the same.
#36
08-26-2010, 01:20 PM
I run a VPC and a hydraulic clutch. I added the VPC first and in my opinion (depending on how you drive) just the VPC will not help you and may make the situation worse. For example if you are getting on it off the line when you pull the clutch for second it will be a unexpected hard pull. With the hydraulic clutch and the vpc i can clutch with my pinkie finger while cruising and not much difference when getting on it. I will say the hydraulic clutch eases the holding of the clutch at a light. Once it is pulled the required pressure to hold it there is dramatically different than the stock setup.
Adam
Adam
#37
09-25-2010, 04:09 PM
#38
07-22-2013, 01:52 PM
Intermediate
71699-07 Hydraulic clutch switch
Hello All,
I will be installing this switch 71699-07 in my 2013 Streetglide that I just put a hydraulic clutch on. When I put the stage 4 kit in, it came with a stiffer clutch spring and I had a sreamin' eagle variable pressure clutch 37000121. The hydraulic clutch made it a little easier. I just about have a CVO, but with all the stuff I want on it.
Here are the part number for the clutch I had put in. I also did braided lines for brake and clutch
1741-0308
1
MAGNUM STERLING CHROMITE® II HYDRAULIC CLUTCH LINES
$96.95
36731-91
1
CLUTCH RELEASE PLATE ASSY
$25.99
11143
1
Retaining Ring
$1.99
36805-06
1
Gaskit, Transmission side
$5.99
36819-07
1
Push Rod, Hydraulic Clutch
$29.99
37137-07A
1
Transmission Side Cover
$269.99
37909-90
1
CLUTCH CIRCLIP, FX, FL, ULTRA
$12.99
42101-10
1
MSTR CYL ASY,LH,FRT/CHRM
$318.99
46115-10
1
KIT-CLUTCHLEVER,CHRM,FLHXSE/USE5
$95.99
8885
1
Bearing, clutch ramp, xl
$11.99
46711-09
1
Harley-Davidson Diamondback Modular Brake Lines. Upper.
$69.99
41751-06A
2
Gaskit, Brakeline
$3.98
41825-09
1
diamondback™ Modular Braided Brake Lines
$269.99
42010-06A
1
Bolt, BANJO, Brakeline
$12.99
99953-99A
2
DOT 4 Brake Fluid
$15.98
71699-07
1
INTERLOCK, CLUTCH SWITCH
$21.44
Here is the list so far:
Kuryakyn Bullet LED Front Turn Signal Inserts
L.E.D. REAR TURN SIGNAL CONVERSIONS
Tri-Bar Light Upgrade - Auxiliary Running Light / Brake Light
Center-Mount Auxiliary Running & Brake Light
Badasscovers The Shield Horn Cover
Willie G.® Skull Collection Derby Cover
Willie G.® Skull Collection Timer Cover
Willie G.® Skull Collection Fuel Console Door
Billet Front Engine Mount Bracket
Fuel Tank Fitting Cover
Chrome Oil Cooler Cover Kit
Tappet Block Accent
Mid-Frame Air Deflectors
Mid-Frame Air Deflectors TRIM
LED HEADLIGHT
LED AUX LAMPS
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Inner shift lever
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Heal/Toe Shifter
Arlen Ness Deep Cut round shifter rod
Deep Cut Stabilizer - Chrome
2008-2012 FLT, Deep Cut, chrome
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Rider floor boards
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Passenger floor boards
Arlen Ness Deep frame grill
Arlen Ness 06-510 Hot Legs - Deep Cut - Chrome - 08-11 Touring
Arlen Ness Fork Boots - Deep Cut - Chrome - 86-up FLHT, 06-up FLHX
PROGRESSIVE INSERTS
Electra Glo Fairing Edge LED
Rear Saddlebag Guard, CHROME
ADJ RIDER BACKREST, SMOOTH
INSTL KIT, ADJ BCKRST 09-L
Docking Hardware Kit 4P
Detachable Passenger Sissy Bar Upright - Standard-Height, Chrome
Styled Backrest Mounting Plate
Short Passenger Backrest Pad - Smooth Look
AUXILIARY PASS LAMP KIT
BOOM!™ Audio Hidden AM/FM/WB Antenna
"BOOM! AUDIO SYSTEM WIRING HARNESS
Non-Ultra Overlay Harness
BOOM! AUDIO AMP & SPEAKERS
BOOM! AUDIO HIDDEN ANTENNA
BOOM! AUDIO NAVIGATION INTERFACE
BOOM! AUDIO SADDLEBAG SPEAKERS
SADDLEBAG SPEAKER LID, MIDNIGHT PEARL LH
SADDLEBAG SPEAKER LID, MIDNIGHT PEARL RH
Boom!™ Audio iPod® Interface
CHROME SWITCH COVERS
Chrome Switch Cap Kit
CHROME CLUTCH AND MASTER CYLINDER KIT
CHROME HAND LEVER KIT
PREMIUM OIL COOLER COVER
Chrome Lower Triple Tree Cover
Finned Headbolt Bridge - Black
RC COMPONENTS AIR CLEANER (SAVAGE)
STAGE 4 LABOR
STAGE IV KIT
Kit-Clutch, Variable
Kit-Spacer, Clutch, Variable
VANCE AND HINES POWER DUELS
VANCE AND HINES HI - OUTPUT SLIP ONS
Hydraulic Clutch
I can provide part numbers if anyone is interested. Alway willing to give advice on anything.
I will be installing this switch 71699-07 in my 2013 Streetglide that I just put a hydraulic clutch on. When I put the stage 4 kit in, it came with a stiffer clutch spring and I had a sreamin' eagle variable pressure clutch 37000121. The hydraulic clutch made it a little easier. I just about have a CVO, but with all the stuff I want on it.
Here are the part number for the clutch I had put in. I also did braided lines for brake and clutch
1741-0308
1
MAGNUM STERLING CHROMITE® II HYDRAULIC CLUTCH LINES
$96.95
36731-91
1
CLUTCH RELEASE PLATE ASSY
$25.99
11143
1
Retaining Ring
$1.99
36805-06
1
Gaskit, Transmission side
$5.99
36819-07
1
Push Rod, Hydraulic Clutch
$29.99
37137-07A
1
Transmission Side Cover
$269.99
37909-90
1
CLUTCH CIRCLIP, FX, FL, ULTRA
$12.99
42101-10
1
MSTR CYL ASY,LH,FRT/CHRM
$318.99
46115-10
1
KIT-CLUTCHLEVER,CHRM,FLHXSE/USE5
$95.99
8885
1
Bearing, clutch ramp, xl
$11.99
46711-09
1
Harley-Davidson Diamondback Modular Brake Lines. Upper.
$69.99
41751-06A
2
Gaskit, Brakeline
$3.98
41825-09
1
diamondback™ Modular Braided Brake Lines
$269.99
42010-06A
1
Bolt, BANJO, Brakeline
$12.99
99953-99A
2
DOT 4 Brake Fluid
$15.98
71699-07
1
INTERLOCK, CLUTCH SWITCH
$21.44
Here is the list so far:
Kuryakyn Bullet LED Front Turn Signal Inserts
L.E.D. REAR TURN SIGNAL CONVERSIONS
Tri-Bar Light Upgrade - Auxiliary Running Light / Brake Light
Center-Mount Auxiliary Running & Brake Light
Badasscovers The Shield Horn Cover
Willie G.® Skull Collection Derby Cover
Willie G.® Skull Collection Timer Cover
Willie G.® Skull Collection Fuel Console Door
Billet Front Engine Mount Bracket
Fuel Tank Fitting Cover
Chrome Oil Cooler Cover Kit
Tappet Block Accent
Mid-Frame Air Deflectors
Mid-Frame Air Deflectors TRIM
LED HEADLIGHT
LED AUX LAMPS
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Inner shift lever
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Heal/Toe Shifter
Arlen Ness Deep Cut round shifter rod
Deep Cut Stabilizer - Chrome
2008-2012 FLT, Deep Cut, chrome
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Rider floor boards
Arlen Ness Deep Cut Passenger floor boards
Arlen Ness Deep frame grill
Arlen Ness 06-510 Hot Legs - Deep Cut - Chrome - 08-11 Touring
Arlen Ness Fork Boots - Deep Cut - Chrome - 86-up FLHT, 06-up FLHX
PROGRESSIVE INSERTS
Electra Glo Fairing Edge LED
Rear Saddlebag Guard, CHROME
ADJ RIDER BACKREST, SMOOTH
INSTL KIT, ADJ BCKRST 09-L
Docking Hardware Kit 4P
Detachable Passenger Sissy Bar Upright - Standard-Height, Chrome
Styled Backrest Mounting Plate
Short Passenger Backrest Pad - Smooth Look
AUXILIARY PASS LAMP KIT
BOOM!™ Audio Hidden AM/FM/WB Antenna
"BOOM! AUDIO SYSTEM WIRING HARNESS
Non-Ultra Overlay Harness
BOOM! AUDIO AMP & SPEAKERS
BOOM! AUDIO HIDDEN ANTENNA
BOOM! AUDIO NAVIGATION INTERFACE
BOOM! AUDIO SADDLEBAG SPEAKERS
SADDLEBAG SPEAKER LID, MIDNIGHT PEARL LH
SADDLEBAG SPEAKER LID, MIDNIGHT PEARL RH
Boom!™ Audio iPod® Interface
CHROME SWITCH COVERS
Chrome Switch Cap Kit
CHROME CLUTCH AND MASTER CYLINDER KIT
CHROME HAND LEVER KIT
PREMIUM OIL COOLER COVER
Chrome Lower Triple Tree Cover
Finned Headbolt Bridge - Black
RC COMPONENTS AIR CLEANER (SAVAGE)
STAGE 4 LABOR
STAGE IV KIT
Kit-Clutch, Variable
Kit-Spacer, Clutch, Variable
VANCE AND HINES POWER DUELS
VANCE AND HINES HI - OUTPUT SLIP ONS
Hydraulic Clutch
I can provide part numbers if anyone is interested. Alway willing to give advice on anything.
Last edited by mikear2012; 07-23-2013 at 05:57 PM.
#39
07-22-2013, 02:56 PM
+1, it's so easy to pull it feels like the cable is broken. VPC is an easier install and less expensive than hydraulic.
#40
07-26-2013, 09:13 AM
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Ride a 2011 Blackline
I've installed one on every Dresser I've built, I love em'.I just installed one on my '09 Street Glide. HD doesn't make a complete kit for our bike's so this is what I did. I went into the CVO Ultra part's catalog and ordered the transmission end cover, push rod, chrome lever and the hydraulic line. Because I didn't want a chrome master cylinder I went into the V-Rod catalog and ordered a black master cylinder (it's the same size, 11/16) All bolted up great. If anyone is interested I can provide all the part numbers.
Now, this is important, if you do this there is one more thing you have to do. There is a clutch lock out switch in your left switch housing (this prevents you from starting the bike while it is in gear) You need to change out the switch because it is a normally closed switch on the clutch cabled bikes and a normally open switch on the hyd. clutch bikes. If you don't your bike will only be able to start while in nuetral and not in gear while the clutch is pulled in. What also happens if you don't change this switch out is your security (key) light will go on while riding and your 6 gear light will not function.
I can't say enough about how better this bike now shift's. Way better! The only complaints I've heard from people is that the hyd system is alittle more "abrupt" then the cable but it doesn't take long to get used to. If i can answer any question's for anyone plz shout my way. Rich
Now, this is important, if you do this there is one more thing you have to do. There is a clutch lock out switch in your left switch housing (this prevents you from starting the bike while it is in gear) You need to change out the switch because it is a normally closed switch on the clutch cabled bikes and a normally open switch on the hyd. clutch bikes. If you don't your bike will only be able to start while in nuetral and not in gear while the clutch is pulled in. What also happens if you don't change this switch out is your security (key) light will go on while riding and your 6 gear light will not function.
I can't say enough about how better this bike now shift's. Way better! The only complaints I've heard from people is that the hyd system is alittle more "abrupt" then the cable but it doesn't take long to get used to. If i can answer any question's for anyone plz shout my way. Rich
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