TCB Brake system
#1
TCB Brake system
Anyone have one installed on their bike and would like to comment on it? Looks like it might work?
http://www.hdopenroad.com/reviews/tc...em-cost-value/
http://www.hdopenroad.com/reviews/tc...em-cost-value/
#3
#5
I would highly recommend avoiding these types of devices. The way they "work" is to hydraulically expand at a certain, predetermined hydraulic brake pressure thus limiting the maximum pressure achieved by the brake system and “avoiding” tire lockup. This all sounds good until you realize that your tires will lock at different brake pressures depending on the surface you are riding on (concete, asphalt, wet, gravel), loading conditions (one rider, two up, luggage), type of brake pads, brand of tires ... So, for one in a million conditions they will work perfectly and all other conditions they will either limit your maximum braking too early or too late. Limit too early and you could have stopped faster and limit too late and you're on your head. These things have been around for many years and I saw them first for cars when ABS was becoming popular 15 or so years ago. I guess now since ABS is becoming popular on bikes they are trying again to make a quick buck at the expense of your safety.
#7
I guess I should clarify further. We, the company I worked for, tested them in a laboratory 15 years ago when they came out for cars. I provided you a simplified explaination of how they work and why I believe they should be avoided. Also, I've designed brakes and brake control systems (ABS,TCS,Panic Brake Assist, VSE...) for cars and motorcycles for over 20 years so maybe that gives me a little credibility. Sorry for not stating that in my last post. And no, I haven't specifically put them on a bike and tested them. Why, because I don't need to. I, and now you, know how they work and the risks you take using them.
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#8
I guess I should clarify further. We, the company I worked for, tested them in a laboratory 15 years ago when they came out for cars. I provided you a simplified explaination of how they work and why I believe they should be avoided. Also, I've designed brakes and brake control systems (ABS,TCS,Panic Brake Assist, VSE...) for cars and motorcycles for over 20 years so maybe that gives me a little credibility. Sorry for not stating that in my last post. And no, I haven't specifically put them on a bike and tested them. Why, because I don't need to. I, and now you, know how they work and the risks you take using them.
#9
I installed one on the rear of my '07 FLHX. They come in four different "strengths"....I am totally impressed with the greatly improved feel of the rear brake. Gone (or at least greatly diminished) is the touchiness in a bad moment in traffic, but the braking effort is not increased. All it does is take the edge off a too-quick jab to the pedal. Having locked my rear brake many times over the years, I feel this device is exactly what I was looking for. I can only speak for rear brake application. I have been riding since I was 11 years old, and riding Harley Davidsons since I was 19. I believe I am qualified to say that they work in a real-world way, at least for riders that are smart enough to realize that their brakes will take different amounts of application pressure on different surfaces to lock/avoid lock. Again, all the TCB does is buffer the initial jab to the pedal; the brake will still lock up if you want it to, and brake application is easier to modulate. The best $75 I've spent in the last few years. Not theory, just fact....
#10
I wrote the article
I wrote the article at HDOpenroad.com. I would like to state here that I am not affiliated with TCB Braking Systems, nor are they a sponsor of my website. I even bought the set that we tested. I did this because I thought it would make a great story. My 2008 Ultra has ABS, but my brother and Panman do not. The clincher was a couple of weeks ago when my brother dropped his bike on the 91 freeway in fog. His front tire momentarily locked up, causing the bike to slide. It didn't have to happen! I stand behind my articles.