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Old 08-04-2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by crescentmotor
As hot as these bike were already, it is hard to understand why Harley would do something that added 100 degrees to the problem. This dampens my enthusiasm toward my still planned purchase. It looks like I can count on several $hundred extras for heat management (fuel management, pipes, etc.) on my Ultra Limited 103. Maybe the thought was most folks make these changes anyway but I was hoping to avoid that by getting the extra power/torque by stepping up to the Limited 103 and leaving it stock.
I believe the change was due to EPA requirements. I remember reading that US EPA standards are two years behind CA requirements. So CA bikes got the cats in '08 and now cats are in all the bikes due to US 2010 EPA regs.
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by crescentmotor
As hot as these bike were already, it is hard to understand why Harley would do something that added 100 degrees to the problem. This dampens my enthusiasm toward my still planned purchase. It looks like I can count on several $hundred extras for heat management (fuel management, pipes, etc.) on my Ultra Limited 103. Maybe the thought was most folks make these changes anyway but I was hoping to avoid that by getting the extra power/torque by stepping up to the Limited 103 and leaving it stock.
Simply put, this comes down to the current EPA standards. Like most other internal combustion engines on the road today they needed to put a catalyst on them. Unfortunately, the catalyst operates from a heat reaction which does not help with a an air cooled engine.
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 01:04 PM
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I guess if I were looking for a new bike, picking up a left over 09 49 state bike at a reduced price with some of the incentives dealers are giving looks like the hot ticket for this year.
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 01:20 PM
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No big deal. My SERG came with a cat. Bought a core bit and drilled it out. Took about 30 minutes and a lot of sweat. This only gets out half of the material but opens up the exhaust. The preferred way is to take off the exhaust cut it, gut it and re-weld it. T.
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 02:39 PM
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Best bet is to buy a older bike and mod the hell out of it with the money saved from not buying a new one.
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 02:58 PM
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I don't want cats. these bikes are too hot already
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FastHoss
Best bet is to buy a older bike and mod the hell out of it with the money saved from not buying a new one.
I have an 08 and keeping it...
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by crescentmotor
...is hard to understand why Harley would do something ...
Im quite sure that the EPA and NOT Harley is the culprit here.

And I can finally say - I'm liking my 08 more as time goes by
 
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Old 08-04-2009 | 05:02 PM
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Lots of members on this site last year told us that the epa was going to tighten up the standards in 2010. Some even predicted that 2010's were coming with the cats. Sho nuff dey here! Diggin my 09.
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Old 08-04-2009 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
Yes, all of the touring bikes have catalysts in the collector. From the testing we have done so far on our 2010 bike the exhaust system runs over 100 degrees hotter at the collector over our 2009 bike. This is a problem, and lets just say we will have an excellent alternative this that will be released with the rest of our new products the end of the month.
could you tell us what you are going to do?Will it lower the temp.?
 
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