we'll all know in a few weeks. i'm curious, but i hope they don't do something radical like come out with a totally new frame and water cooled engine. that would make all the owners of 09's left with owning a one year only frame. soon enough we'll know though. how? i don't know, other than harleys site i guess. cause the mags will have info but later on. every year some psychics who have a brother in law who's cousin that knows a guy who works in york at the factory, has an inside line on the new models. not directed to you agent of chaos, but just a fact that happens each year about this time of the year. just gotta be patient and we'll all know.