Originally Posted by trackadaptor

1.10.2010 11,500 miles all is good....that's 7,000 miles from: 8.2009 - 1.2010

It's easy not to understand why I vented about my bike having a missing weld and being without it for 30 days.

Hey - Multi Million Dollar Space Shuttles, Air Planes have problems, just really sucks when it's your problem........

Harley replaced the Frame , Swing Arm, Gas Tank and Rear Shocks.

I was going the Lemon Law route... but GF said the bike has travled to Tahoe, Street Vibrations, Las Vegas, Carmel, Hearst Castle...so lets keep her....for x-mass she bought her a new rear tire at 10,800 miles ;-)

If my venting has kept anyone from buying a Harley, that's pretty weak - to date I was the only one in 200,00 + frames that a weld was missed, or that we have heard about.

Buying a Harley is a state of mind: Do you buy a Harley cause it will out handle , perform come fully loaded for under $30k like a Honda Goldwing or BMW K1200LT...... come on

Harley is now made at around 30% Non-USA - Showa suspension - Brazil
Bosch Electronics - Germany
Little bolt on stuff - China

Harley has a Loan at 15% for over $900 million to Warren Buffut , and it's not a simple intrest loan...

Who cares , I ride a Harley for the enjoyment of the Harley community.. I have meet a lot more folks riding a Harley than I ever did my Goldwing for 5 years 140k miles..

You buy a Harley and ride the darn thing, I have one friend who owns a Harley FLHTCU 2005 it has 3,500 miles on it....all local M/C bars Saturday only rides...but hey..he rides a Harley.....

Originally Posted by trackadaptor

If my venting has kept anyone from buying a Harley, that's pretty weak

Originally Posted by djkolp

As far as your quote above is concerned, I don't agree with you. I was unaware that your post was 6 months old. That was an oversight on my part. But it doesn't change the fact that you had a serious problem. Manufacturing flaws happen on occasion, but this one could have easily killed you and your passenger. I don't think "pretty weak" are words that I would use to describe my reaction to your anger. Your comments regarding the Ultra were pretty damning, even if it was in the heat of the moment. You were entitled to be upset, considering the bike was only 90 days old at the time. But as someone who is considering another Harley, and a very expensive one at that, your post had me rethinking the purchase. I've owned a Honda Shadow 1100, 2 Heritage Softail Classics, and my current Kawasaki Vulcan 2000 LT. I know I will ruffle a few feathers when I say that Harley Davidson commands a premium price for a sometimes less than premium product. But it has a rich history, along with a marketing campaign that is second to none. The fact that I'm looking to buy another one is a testament to that. Again, I'm glad everything worked out for you. It was an interesting thread, even if it was ancient history.

DJK

Originally Posted by djkolp

Almost rode away on a new 2010 FLHTCU from the dealer today. This thread has just killed my desire for new Harley.

Originally Posted by UltraClassicElectraGlide

Why? Seems like both the dealer and H-D stepped up and resolved the problems. Based on how H-D responded, just the opposite should be true.

The real issue to me is all the grandstanding by the OP BEFORE anyone had a chance to assess the problem, such as contacting his insurance company, demanding a new bike, claiming lemon law (I'm not sure; is there such a thing for motorcycles in California?) whipping up a frenzy here, invoking the safety of his daughter, etc.

While I'm gald the problems have been resolved, it seems that we have to at least give the dealer and H-D an opportunity to resolve any issues BEFORE posting on H-D forums in the manner he did. Sure, he was upset, as any of us would have been, but some of his posts BEFORE H-D even had a chance to inspect the frame, come on. I have some issues with my '10 Ultra but certainly not going to come unglued before allowing the dealer to have a couple of shots at making repairs. I guess I feel that a lot of his remarks were way over the top, unfair, and unnecessary, to seek a fair resolution.

Just my personal opinion...

Originally Posted by trackadaptor

1.10.2010 11,500 miles all is good....that's 7,000 miles from: 8.2009 - 1.2010

It's easy not to understand why I vented about my bike having a missing weld and being without it for 30 days.

Originally Posted by Time2ride

"3.) San Jose Harley understands that I DO NOT want this bike - First Gas Tank and Now
the Frame - Safety Issue with my 11 year old daughter ..."

You lost me there. Everything else aside, your 11 year old as a passenger on a motorcycle is a safety issue all by itself. It's your kid, put her at risk if you choose, but using her as an arguing point for a cracked frame or any other issue makes you look like an idiot. Sell the bike and buy a volvo station wagon if you want your kid to be safer as a passenger.

Originally Posted by davessworks

Thanks trackadaptor - I'm very happy for you. I figured the MoCo would handle this properly. After asking for a synopsis I actually did go back and read a few of the posts within the thread. Frankly I'd have been pretty mad about the whole thing too - it's a little scary. But they took care of it and that's what matters - **** happens.

By the way - did they reissue the VIN? I believe that's what normally happens. The dealership has to literally cut the VIN from your frame and send it back to Harley and they reissue it on the new frame.

On an unrelated note -
I was unaware of a 15% interest loan to Buffet so I looked it up: http://247wallst.com/2009/02/03/warren-buffet-1/

No wonder Buffett has so much $$$$$!

The only reason you issue those kinds of bonds is because the debt rating of the company isn't so hot . . .

Originally Posted by trackadaptor

davessworks ".did they reissue the VIN? I believe that's what normally happens. The dealership has to literally cut the VIN from your frame and send it back to Harley and they reissue it on the new frame....."

Nope, Dealer had to send the entire frame intact to Mother Harley, then Mother Harley had to issue a new frame with my Vin#... Otherwise it would be considered a "Totaled" bike :-)