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Old 06-17-2009 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnylee
Thats not good! I think your on your own with it. Is it just the front fender?
Yes, just the front fender....... so far...........
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Scorpion07
I see it clearly. It's odd how it's peeling in a uniform strip, almost like real bad paint prep?
My 07's OK so far....
It hasn't actually peeled or flaked yet....... just separated from the base.
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by notlost_nc
Maybe some DOT 4 brake fluid has dribbled on down to the fender during servicing ?
I'm going to agree with this, or something similar hapening.
If it was a defect this would have started in a small area and increased over time. You would have noticed it before it got to this point.
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by notlost_nc
Maybe some DOT 4 brake fluid has dribbled on down to the fender during servicing ?
That's a very good thought....... although I'm not sure I could use that excuse for the spot on the side.

Thanks for all the replies. I really don't expect the moco to stand behind it but was wondering if anyone had ever had a GOOD outcome with anything similar to this.
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 12:27 PM
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I would definitely agree about the possibility of brake fluid. I've never seen the powder clear pull off the base like that before all on its own...
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 12:41 PM
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Bad prep or surface contamination im betting.. Brake fluid eats paint and wrinkles it. It doesnt make it lift like that .
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by n8dc
Bad prep or surface contamination im betting.. Brake fluid eats paint and wrinkles it. It doesnt make it lift like that .
True dat.
If it was from brake fluid the clear would be all wrinkled.
It's a paint and/or prep defect, plain and simple.
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 01:33 PM
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I'm suprised to see that condition as HD factory paint is usually very good. I agreee with the posts in regards to brake fluid. Brake fluid would cause a problem from the top down. This is obviously coming from the bottom up. I am in the paint business and we see this condition quite often. Mostly the cause is clear that is too thin and the suns UV rays are able to penetrate throught the thin layer of clear and start to break down the basecoat, causing this type of delamination. The thing is, this condition happens over time, and typically with metallic/pearl colors or dark colors that absorb much more sunlight. In your case, the bike isn't very old and the fender is down low so it is not as exposed as say a car hood. Also, HD powdercoat clear is just about as durable of a clearcoat out there, even if your bike it is black in color. Assuming you bought the bike new, meaning that it hasn't been repainted or it hasn't been sanded and buffed down too far, I would still take it into the dealer to try and get something resolved. It wouldn't be a bad idea to take it to a body shop and have the cleaocoat thickness measured with a mil guage. This may give you some ammunition for a resolve. Nice bike, sorry that this happened. Gold Luck!!

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Old 06-17-2009 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by joechief
I'm suprised to see that condition as HD factory paint is usually very good. I agreee with the posts in regards to brake fluid. Brake fluid would cause a problem from the top down. This is obviously coming from the bottom up. I am in the paint business and we see this condition quite often. Mostly the cause is clear that is too thin and the suns UV rays are able to penetrate throught the thin layer of clear and start to break down the basecoat, causing this type of delamination. The thing is, this condition happens over time, and typically with metallic/pearl colors or dark colors that absorb much more sunlight. In your case, the bike isn't very old and the fender is down low so it is not as exposed as say a car hood. Also, HD powdercoat clear is just about as durable of a clearcoat out there, even if your bike it is black in color. Assuming you bought the bike new, meaning that it hasn't been repainted or it hasn't been sanded and buffed down too far, I would still take it into the dealer to try and get something resolved. It wouldn't be a bad idea to take it to a body shop and have the cleaocoat thickness measured with a mil guage. This may give you some ammunition for a resolve. Nice bike, sorry that this happened. Gold Luck!!

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Ok lets talk about clear coat thickness too. It has absolutely nothing to do with adhesion of the clear coat to the base coat. It may have something to do with UV protection as far as fading and stuff but if its not sticking its not sticking and thats that. Sorry but i used to have a paint and body business and thats poor surface prep or a contaminated surface period.. end of discussion... The real problem is SH*T happens even with the pros.. Ive been thru it all and all the ISO 9000 / 900 whatever crap and again SH(T happens...
 
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Old 06-17-2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by n8dc
Bad prep or surface contamination im betting.. Brake fluid eats paint and wrinkles it. It doesnt make it lift like that .

I had a similar problem on a 1995 Honda Accord in 2000 and it was well out of warranty. Honda fixed that (said it must have been bad prep) and a non-retracting seatbelt (safety issue) free of charge! Doubt Moco will do it, but it's worth pointing out and asking. It's like asking the hottest girl in school out on a date, you don't have any chance unless you at least ask.

 


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