09 ABS TEST - Proof ABS takes longer to stop
#201
Anyone got any thoughts / comments?
#202
Your fundamental misunderstanding of ABS and continued specious arguments defending your testing methodology, results, and conclusions regarding ABS is unbelievable. When you are wrong, admit it and move on. When you've hit rock bottom, stop digging. I'm embarrassed for you.
Originally Posted by kingkingking
You can't steer and brake at the same time on the bike, even with ABS.
Ride Safe,
Steve R.
#203
I've had my disagreements with kingkingking on the subject of ABS too, but if you're taking exception to his statement:
and we're talking about "emergency braking" here, then you're the one who's wrong. Don't believed me? Do as kingkingking suggests and check out the DVD that Harley includes with their ABS equipped bikes. It specifically states that you "can not" maneuver during an ABS event. The bike will come seriously unglued and they even show a professional rider trying it. The bike had outriggers on it and he'd have been on his *** three or four times without them. The only way you can come anywhere near close to max effort braking is if the bike is upright, ABS or not!
Ride Safe,
Steve R.
and we're talking about "emergency braking" here, then you're the one who's wrong. Don't believed me? Do as kingkingking suggests and check out the DVD that Harley includes with their ABS equipped bikes. It specifically states that you "can not" maneuver during an ABS event. The bike will come seriously unglued and they even show a professional rider trying it. The bike had outriggers on it and he'd have been on his *** three or four times without them. The only way you can come anywhere near close to max effort braking is if the bike is upright, ABS or not!
Ride Safe,
Steve R.
#204
absolutely correct...saw it experienced it....recently saw a classic scooter vrs car crash....car turned left in front of the scooter....scooter locked brakes....LONG SKID........where he hit that car (at the rear of it) if he would have been able to steer...even a little...he could have avoided it...
ABS kept me from plowing into a DUMB A%% who decided to just STOP in the middle of the road because they wernt sure if the intersection had a stop sign...was able to steer around her...
ill keep mine on....
ABS kept me from plowing into a DUMB A%% who decided to just STOP in the middle of the road because they wernt sure if the intersection had a stop sign...was able to steer around her...
ill keep mine on....
#205
absolutely correct...saw it experienced it....recently saw a classic scooter vrs car crash....car turned left in front of the scooter....scooter locked brakes....LONG SKID........where he hit that car (at the rear of it) if he would have been able to steer...even a little...he could have avoided it...
ABS kept me from plowing into a DUMB A%% who decided to just STOP in the middle of the road because they wernt sure if the intersection had a stop sign...was able to steer around her...
ill keep mine on....
ABS kept me from plowing into a DUMB A%% who decided to just STOP in the middle of the road because they wernt sure if the intersection had a stop sign...was able to steer around her...
ill keep mine on....
Ride Safe,
Steve R.
#206
If given a choice between being face down on the pavement with a non-abs bike, or upright with an abs bike....i'd rather be up right.
I put my abs to the test on my bmw last year....someone pulled in front of me, I HAMMERED the brakes, and I'm up right....non-abs...and i'd be on the ground.
I'm just sayin....its all about choices...
I put my abs to the test on my bmw last year....someone pulled in front of me, I HAMMERED the brakes, and I'm up right....non-abs...and i'd be on the ground.
I'm just sayin....its all about choices...
#207
If given a choice between being face down on the pavement with a non-abs bike, or upright with an abs bike....i'd rather be up right.
I put my abs to the test on my bmw last year....someone pulled in front of me, I HAMMERED the brakes, and I'm up right....non-abs...and i'd be on the ground.
I'm just sayin....its all about choices...
I put my abs to the test on my bmw last year....someone pulled in front of me, I HAMMERED the brakes, and I'm up right....non-abs...and i'd be on the ground.
I'm just sayin....its all about choices...
#208
Like many posters here you missed the whole point of the OP's thread. He was never questioning the value of ABS but rather Harley's version of it. The fact that HD released a software upgrade to solve the very issues the OP groused about shows his complaints were well grounded.
Here is how YOU misunderstood MY post.
1. I never said there is fault in the HD ABS system.
2. I never faulted or questioned the original posters research.
3. I never doubted or questioned the software upgrade to fix this problem.
4. My posting, sir was a blanket statement concerning ABS systems.
ABS works, then again there are those who also think ABS on cars was a waste of time.
#209
Never had any problem with the ABS... In a group where someone locked up a back wheel then the front and went over the top (She is okay... life flighted to Hermin in Houston... Out now and looking for a new ride). (trying to slow to quickly for a turn). ABS would have prevented her lockup... Even if she would have passed her turn... I enjoy the ABS on Harley as it only activates on a emergency situation..
#210
Like many posters here you missed the whole point of the OP's thread. He was never questioning the value of ABS but rather Harley's version of it. The fact that HD released a software upgrade to solve the very issues the OP groused about shows his complaints were well grounded.
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