Not true, the SERT, SEST and the TTS all can be used for TBW bikes. Do a search on the PCIII and V on this site and you will find numerous posts that people have had with the power commanders getting wet and the bike not running. The main problem with the PC's is that they stay on the bike, the SERT, SEST and TTS are used as an interface to tune your bike, once it's tuned, they come off and are not need again untill you want to re-tune or further modify your existing tune. You can get MAPS that are close to your build on this site just by asking, same thing from FuelMoto.

 

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Harleytuner...I agree about the use on TBW bikes. But alot of times you'll find people installign the PCIII and Vs in bad places, without the rubber covers on, or dielectric grease on the connections. Otherwise I drive thru all types of rain without issue!

Now...don't want to download? Buy the PC-V and the Auto-tune! A little work...not more than an hour for the experienced guy and two-three for the non-wrench type of peoples! With Auto-tune...no worries about re-do on the MAPS...ya get your basic one for your set-up and the Auto-tune takes it from there!

Ride Safe, Mike

 

+1 on the inproper install, but I have seen people having problems after a good washing as well. The point is, you don't have the concerns with a fuel management that doesn't stay on the bike.

 

Not to mention you have more tuning control with the SERT SEST and TTS than you do with the pc's. But I will give you one on the autotune, I havn't tried one yet, but if it works as claimed it might be worth the money.

 

I just bought an 09 StreetGlide and I went with the Stage-1 because I can't afford the Super Tuner and dyno time right now. $300 -vs- $750

I plan on adding cams and probably True Duals. If I do I will go with the STT and have it dyno'd.

I didn't go with the PCV because I didn't want to add more hardware. I had a PCIII on my 05 Standard and everyonce in a while the bike wouldn't start. I would unplug and replug the PC and everything was fine. I personally know 2 other people that have this problem with the PC. I do recommend Fuelmoto if you go with the PC. They double the standard warranty, have excellent prices, you can get custom maps and the support is top notch.

My bike runs much cooler with the SE high flow kit, V&H Oval Slip-ons and Stage-1 download. The first thing I do when I get home from riding is clean the bugs off using a bucket of soap and water and a rag. I couldn't get near the bike before the mods. After the mods I can clean right away.

While I was at the bike shop I had a chance to talk with 2 Houston police officers that run the Stage-1 download on their 08 and 09 service bikes. Both of them said they have not had any problems.


dave

 

After reading this thread I went and checked my PCV to see if I have a boot. I didnt see what where would it be located? Mine is sitting loose over the battery under the seat.

The PCV makes a big difference in the bike and mine is not tuned the best either. My friend purchased the SERT and called the HD to make an appointment tomorrow to get pipes and the tuner installed. He asked how long it would take and was told about about 2 hours to complete the job. I told him to ask how long the dyno would take and the service manager said he wouldn't need it because he wasn't installing cams and stuff.

I am not real big on the Harley dealers working on my stuff. Pretty sad. I would go with a Fuel Moto package if I could do it over again. or drive and see HarelyTuner if I could get the time off of work.

 

Awesome, like buying a cd player and not buying any CD's... Well not quite that bad but damn close.

 

I am not sure why the service manager told him that a dyno wasnt needed with the SERT.

 

i went with the hd screamin eagle aircleaner, stage one download, rinehart slip ons, and then the huge improvement was the power comander 5, a.k.a. pcv, fuelmoto sells it for the best price anywhere i've found as others know, and with the map that fuelmoto installed free, that matches my mufflers, the se air cleaner, and the stage one download, it's spot on. what a great difference it made. if i'd have known how much difference the pcv made, i'd have done it way before. it's that much of an improvement. people claim that even more can be had by dynoing it, but i'm very happy with the canned map. great combination of parts that really woke up my streetglide.