Overheating
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Overheating
I have a 2002 Electra Glide Classic that is fuel injected. It has 40,000 miles and has been well maintained. This Spring I started to have some issues with the engine getting hot and oil pressure dropping. I replaced the oil filter and thought that fixed the issue. Now I have figured out that when the bike is idling, it overheats, and after it overheats I loose oil pressure. The issue is that for 3 years the bike has never overheated, not when it was over 100 in Sturgis, 90 in the mountains, never. Now this year if I idle or get into stop and go traffic for more than 5 minutes it overheats. By overheating I mean it gets much hotter, you can smell the engine, the bike starts to miss (by design to help it cool), and wants to stall. So far I have changed oil and filter, replaced the oil pressure bypass spring (helps with pressure, but does not stop overheating). I had a stage one set up (for last two years) with air filter, mufflers, and a Cobra FI2000. One dealer suggested that the FI2000 was to blame so I got a new one. Same problem. Last night I took off the FI2000 and put on the stock mufflers and air cleaner. The issue continues. Again, I have had the bike for 4 years and it has never overheated, now it overheats every time I take it out. So far here is what four different dealers have told me: I need to rebuild the top end of the engine, I need a high performance oil pump (generally I run about 32 psi when all is well), I need to install an oil cooler, I need to install a fan. I live in MN and the riding temps so far have been in the 60's and low 70's. The problem did happen one day when it was only 47.
I am lost and since each dealer I call seems to have a different thought, once they get done trying to convince me it is normal, I am reluctant to take it in because they obviously do not know what is causing the problem.
I know the bike is air cooled. I know air cooled bikes run hot when idling. I know that something is happening to my bike this year that has never happened before.
Riding is my only reason for living in this frozen wasteland. I am hoping someone can help me get this thing running right again before my three months of warmth are gone!
Tim
I am lost and since each dealer I call seems to have a different thought, once they get done trying to convince me it is normal, I am reluctant to take it in because they obviously do not know what is causing the problem.
I know the bike is air cooled. I know air cooled bikes run hot when idling. I know that something is happening to my bike this year that has never happened before.
Riding is my only reason for living in this frozen wasteland. I am hoping someone can help me get this thing running right again before my three months of warmth are gone!
Tim
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RE: Overheating
Sorry you're having problems. If it's overheating and pressure is dropping, looks like a bad oil pump. But's that's just speculation on my part. I'm no Harley engine expert. I noticed your dealer said you need a higher performance oil pump. But if the old one did the job for 40,000 miles, I don't know why you couldn't just replace with a stock part. Hope somebody answers whose solved the problem.
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RE: Overheating
What have you changed? What changed itself? What oil filter do you use? Type of oil? There are alot of variables. I think I would start looking for a lean running condition. Check your plugs. Look for an air leak. Probably at the intake seals or the doughnut behind the carb/throttle body. The oil pressure problem is probably a result of the engine overheating.
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RE: Overheating
I am running 20W-50 HD Oil and running a premium HD Filter. For various reasons I have changed the oil 3 times in the last 500 miles. The plugs are stock and new. I have upgraded the oil bypass spring. I have determined that the oil pressure drop is a direct result of the overheating. Based on a dealer's recommendation I replaced the engine temperature sensor. I have had the bike out twice since and it did not overheat. When I let it idle for a few minutes the oil pressure went down a little but came back up as soon as I started driving again. I am cautiously optimistic that the sensor may have been the problem, even though I do not understand why. I also have a fuel filter and fuel pressure regulator on order and will replace them when they come in. I am planning on going camping this weekend - two up and pulling a trailer. If the problem still exists I expect it to overheat. Thanks for all the input. I do not have all of the tools I wish I had so I am trying some things blindly. If after I change the fuel filter and pressure regulator the problem still exists I am just going to bring it to a dealer and hope for the best.
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