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Old 05-05-2009 | 08:04 AM
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you need to post this in the motorhead section of the forum---your mechanic is correct --there is lot better aftermarket stuff out there that will get well beyond where you want to be--power costs -- the more power the more cost -- I always start with the motor first.

You may want to look into the following S&S 106, AMS 105, HQs 107, Hillside 107, R&R, GMR 107 they maybe others -- but many people have done this. I personally like the HQs motors I have had three -- the current 107 has been a blast.

What ever you choose get the complete kit, it will consist of parts that compliment each other.

If you can swing an additional $1500 - $2000 I would go for a 113/117/120 anything over 107 will require crank work and splitting the cases.

Nothing like having a fast bagger that you pull the front wheel in the air --
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lkr0
you need to post this in the motorhead section of the forum---your mechanic is correct --there is lot better aftermarket stuff out there that will get well beyond where you want to be--power costs -- the more power the more cost -- I always start with the motor first.

You may want to look into the following S&S 106, AMS 105, HQs 107, Hillside 107, R&R, GMR 107 they maybe others -- but many people have done this. I personally like the HQs motors I have had three -- the current 107 has been a blast.

What ever you choose get the complete kit, it will consist of parts that compliment each other.

If you can swing an additional $1500 - $2000 I would go for a 113/117/120 anything over 107 will require crank work and splitting the cases.

Nothing like having a fast bagger that you pull the front wheel in the air --
I'm not looking to spend more than about $1,500 with parts and installation. My buddy is a harley mechanic but would do the work on the side and cut me a break on labor. So are the ones you mentioned replacement motors or big bore kits? Also what kind of numbers did you get on the Dyno with your current setup?
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 09:02 AM
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these are complete kits -- no numbers for my build I have the auto tuner (another $450) which is constantly tuning the motor --

what do you want to do with this motor?

Parts for the least expensive will be $2100 that is not including clutch, gaskets, fluids and assorted other lil stuff that will likely add up to another $400 - $800
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 09:03 AM
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It always amazes me that people spend $20k on the "best" motorcycle made and then they have to spend a minimum of $1,800 to get it to 85 or 90 HP? What's wrong with that picture?
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 09:04 AM
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I would seriously save the $1500 until next year, no sense in doing it 2 or 3 times --
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I'm not looking to spend more than about $1,500 with parts and installation. My buddy is a harley mechanic but would do the work on the side and cut me a break on labor. So are the ones you mentioned replacement motors or big bore kits? Also what kind of numbers did you get on the Dyno with your current setup?
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lkr0
I would seriously save the $1500 until next year, no sense in doing it 2 or 3 times --
I have to agree with this. Do it right the first time. I'm going with the AMS 105" kit with Big Boyz heads. Going to do the labor myself, but just the parts alone (not including gaskets and fluids) are pushing the $1500 really hard.

If you just want a little extra grunt down low, you could always do a bolt in cam to shift your torque curve to the left. I'm really happy with my Andrews 26H (no need for a gear drive setup on the '07 IMO). But I have the know how and help of my mechanic brother to do the 105" kit.

You could also re-gear your primary with either the EVO 30 tooth engine sprocket or the 49 tooth clutch sprocket, which is what I did after my 1st season on the bike. The engine sprocket is by far the easiest to install. The clutch sprocket requires complete disassembly of the clutch basket, a press for the bearing, and it's a good idea to use a drill press for the factory rivets and to countersink the holes to bolt the new sprocket on.

Bottom line.... You will always want more, no matter what you tell yourself now. If you are set on the big bore, save your pennies and just do that the first time around. Speaking from experience here.
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 10:42 AM
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Well the way this started was I called the HD Dealership and asked what would the Stage II 103" kit do for my bike. Most of the guys I ride with have Dyna's and V Rods so I just want to keep up with them, which is what I have to try to do when the light turns green.....lol. Anyway the dealership told me I could probably get about 10 more HP with the 103", which is what I want. They quoted me $800 for the Stage II kit without the catalyst mufflers and air cleaner, because I'm happy with my exhaust and breather. Then they quoted me like $900 for the labor. I'm not looking to go crazy and drop in a new huge motor. I'm not a speed freak. I am a Police Officer with ethics, so you won't see my burnin' by cars at 100 mph. (At least not when I'm in uniform....just kidding) So that's when I called my buddy who is a mechanic at the same dealership, who told me that he could use various non-harley parts and cams and he could bore out the cylinders to where I would get better than what the 103" could do for about $400 less than the parts and installation of the 103" kit. Which I'm fine with. Just want a little more pickup because it just feels slow off the start.
 

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Old 05-05-2009 | 11:32 AM
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here is my dyno.

07 Ultra, rinehart TD
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S&S gear drive, andrews 26 cam
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 11:39 AM
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Head quarters you wont be sorry!
 
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Old 05-05-2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mcrider1
It always amazes me that people spend $20k on the "best" motorcycle made and then they have to spend a minimum of $1,800 to get it to 85 or 90 HP? What's wrong with that picture?
Same reason muscle cars exist .... go-fast boats exist... race cars ...aircraft ... race guns.... big houses .. ect. ect. .... stock is fine but some people want more....
 



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