What you fail to realize is that some drinkers are responsible and others are idiots, we've all seen plenty of both. Ever heard of the phrase "instant azzhole, just add alchohol."? Ferchristsakes, there are many that become tipsy after ONE beer let alone two or six! That is why I'm a firm believer in roadside sobriety testing, IMO it's a much better indicator than blood alchohol level of whether or not a driver should be behind the wheel.
I guess me and my entire gainfully employed, educated, taxpaying, country serving, law abiding, church going, extended family; aunts, uncles, parents, grandparents, cousins and siblings are all irresponsible POS's because every single one of them drinks some beer or wine at family picnics, weddings, dinner parties & holiday celebrations and then gets in their car and drives home????
I guess I'm a terrible father too then cuz every single sunday morning I drive home with my wife & seven kids in the family van after drinking (gasp) wine?

 

In case you haven't noticed, this is an open forum ... a friendly discussion, a debate. Perhaps YOU are in the wrong place. May I suggest that you open a "Showdown" forum for all that are in your favour. Then, your feelings won't get hurt when someone disagrees with you.


Pfffttt! Now I have heard of EVERYTHING!

 

diabolical plan? no more a public relations plan..... do what ever it takes to look good to John Q. for the least expense

 

Give me a break!

We all find ways to justify our behaviour. Difference is...we have not harmed or killed anyone.... yet. Sure, you can have a few beers with the boys and make it home safe and sound...No harm done. But, the moment you have that one accident that may or may not have had anything to do with an impairment and you do hurt someone ... You'd be the first to wonder if it would have happened at all, had you not had that 2nd or 3rd beer (or gasp ... glass of wine). I just hope that NEVER happens!

 

Ooh, ooh, can I stick up for 'em in here?

Checkpoints, with stipulations, have been ruled constitutional again and again. I have only ever personally been an active part in a few of them. They are relatively rare in my neck of the woods. On those rare occasions we stopped, say, every 10th car (or truck, or motorcycle) and did our thing. They almost always result in arrests for DWI, warrants, drugs, etc... Maybe not the most effective use of manpower but certainly effective if used properly.

FWIW, I'd much rather be arresting drug dealers and gang members every day. But being in full uniform in a marked police cruiser limits my effectiveness in those particular areas. If I arrest a drug dealer it's more than likely because I stopped him for a traffic violation. Narcotics investigations take time, and manpower, and money (yeah, I used to do it). If you have a problem with drug dealers on your block, please report it. Repeatedly if necessary. But it's really not the street cops that are gonna be investigating it.

 

This is not every 10th car its just targeting bikers............ once again.............plain and simple just bikers as they did in upsate NY.

As for reporting the gangbangers in my area, what for? Nothing will be done, to much work and to much danger..........been like this for years and years, must be one long narc investigation, although last year they arrested 3 of there own for dealing drugs and hanging out with gangbangers...............

 

How can you complain that nothing's being done when you don't report it? It's entirely possible that they are unaware of the problem, or at least it's severity.

 

Seems to me your the one who hijacked the thread................maybe your right I am in the wrong place, I did not relize this was a cop forum, with you being the head honcho......


All those in favour of being targeted for riding there bike on a nice sunny afternoon, just because they can...say I.............

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Look at it this way...you're not being targeted any more than the guys on Goldwings or crotch rockets.

 

This is basically correct. The courts have ruled time and again that if you're going to conduct a roadblock, you cannot use targeted or selective enforcement. You either have to stop every vehicle or stop every 3rd, 5th, etc so that the vehicle types and occupants are randomly stopped and not targeted. Anything else is illegal and, if challenged in court, "should" be ruled unconstitutional.

Having a motorcycle-specific roadblock is plain bulls*t and is no more legal than if they decided to stop everyone driving yellow VW bugs. It's profiling.