Is there a cam the has the off idle TQ of the SE 255's ??
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255s and seat wear
Just a note from the field. I've seen several 110 ci CVO motors develop an interference issue between the spring retainers and rocker boxes-usually the rear cylinder first. Gets worse with miles. The lift of the 255s is great , and the short valve events make off idle torque , but I'm beginning to suspect this leads to the valve seats getting hammered and the installed height of the valves growing-BANG-witness marks on the rocker box and an annoyingly loud motor. No major damage , but suspect engineering nonetheless. With a 103" motor , the 204 cams should be pretty stout , with a much gentler profile. My $.02. With a lighter bike (Dyna or FX Softtail , the 203s are very nice bolt in cams.)
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You have good, early tq with the SE 255 because the intake close is at 25*. But you also make very little horsepower for a 96" cammed engine--so while it produces tq, it does so slowly. An 18-wheeler has great tq, but makes it slowly to give a gross example of the relationship between tq and hp.
Also, I don't understand the question about "off-idle." My bike idles at about 980 rpm, but I seldom ride at below 2000 rpm.
The post earlier about "area under the curve" is also perfectly valid and true--if you want to know how well a cam makes power, look at the area under the curve where you ride--past 5K is irrelevant to me, for example.
One of the few (only?) bolt-in cams (i.e. no issues with valve springs, piston clearance, etc.) with a 36* intake close is the HQ-500/HQ-0034. Almost all the others close at 40* (and users often use a 4* advance key to create the earlier close). There are many happy users of the HQ 500/0034, myself included.
Also, I don't understand the question about "off-idle." My bike idles at about 980 rpm, but I seldom ride at below 2000 rpm.
The post earlier about "area under the curve" is also perfectly valid and true--if you want to know how well a cam makes power, look at the area under the curve where you ride--past 5K is irrelevant to me, for example.
One of the few (only?) bolt-in cams (i.e. no issues with valve springs, piston clearance, etc.) with a 36* intake close is the HQ-500/HQ-0034. Almost all the others close at 40* (and users often use a 4* advance key to create the earlier close). There are many happy users of the HQ 500/0034, myself included.
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I've only got about 80 miles with my 103" and 204 cams. Great throttle respnse and great power from 2000rpm and above. However, the tune is making a big difference as well as I go through the V-Tune process with the help of Doc. I have not lost anything below 2000rpm compared with stock. My service manager and tech thought this combo is much better than with the 255s.
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