88 to 95 upgrade? deal or no deal
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I don't see it as a deal. The same results can be had for:
130 bucks for a piston kit, 300 bucks for cams, 100 bucks or so for boring, 100 bucks for gaskets and bearings and and a thing or two else I might have forgetten......Of course, a dealer gets the parts cheaper.....So by my math, he is making at least 1000 bucks on labor.....way high, IMO.
130 bucks for a piston kit, 300 bucks for cams, 100 bucks or so for boring, 100 bucks for gaskets and bearings and and a thing or two else I might have forgetten......Of course, a dealer gets the parts cheaper.....So by my math, he is making at least 1000 bucks on labor.....way high, IMO.
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I don't see it as a deal. The same results can be had for:
130 bucks for a piston kit, 300 bucks for cams, 100 bucks or so for boring, 100 bucks for gaskets and bearings and and a thing or two else I might have forgetten......Of course, a dealer gets the parts cheaper.....So by my math, he is making at least 1000 bucks on labor.....way high, IMO.
130 bucks for a piston kit, 300 bucks for cams, 100 bucks or so for boring, 100 bucks for gaskets and bearings and and a thing or two else I might have forgetten......Of course, a dealer gets the parts cheaper.....So by my math, he is making at least 1000 bucks on labor.....way high, IMO.
You left a few thigs out and some of your prices were a little off. You might find those prices on unknown pieces from sellers that may not back up their merchandise and can give very little tech support as they are working an internet business out of their basement with no or very little invenyory on E-Bay etc. but beware:
Wiseco pistons $410, Andrews/crane cams $300, Pushrods, S&S Twin Cam $200, Cam change kit gaskets $19, Top end gasket set $96Bore/fit/final hone two cylinders $125, Inner bearings $20, Outer Bearings $25. These are retail so you might get slightly better prices depending on the shop, they add up to almost $1,200. Now add in R.R cylinders, cam, lifters, pushrods,dis-assembly/assembly of cams/camplate and cleaning of areas affected and reassambly and the shop is making less than $500. We do not use the rings that come with the pistons, we only use Total Seal as we have to warranty the engine for a reasonable time, so that adds to our cost. Add to that the cost of doing busuness: buying tools, insurance, heat/lights, taxes, chemicals, Even at $2,000 we aren't getting rich. Also that does not even cover basic headwork.We have about an even number of customers that do work and have problems that don't. If you are experienced and have access then do it, if not find a REPUTABLE SHOP and have them do it. Ask to speak to several customers that have had similar work done, basically check out the shop, remember it is your money. We will loan out some of our tools to our good customers on the weekends to do work on their bikes, maybe there are shops in your area that do the same. Hope this helps.
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Did mine last June.....1550 kit, race tuner, gear drives and Andrews cams and it ran me $2500 (parts, labor, tax, title, kiss, everything)..........for me, was the best $ I've spent on it thus far.....wish I had it done long time ago. I just wanted more low and mid range torque as I spend a lot of time in the mountains and it saves me a lot of shifting. Now it runs like it should have out of the box.....IMHO.
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Why would anyone use SE parts when you can get more HP and torque out of aftermarket stuff?? The guys that do that are the ones that get sucked into the long-term service contracts. Once you have it open you might just as well use the best parts and blow those dealer built bikes in the weeds. Like my buddy say's at his tattoo shop when somebody asks him what's the cheapest tattoo you got? He replies "I got one that says "CHEAP BASTARD" for free!! I just don't see why anybody would cut corners on an $16,000-$30,000 motorcycle. When you use less than optimal parts you can actuall lose performance. Just my two cents worth.
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Fwiw
heres what i did a year ago, pretty well known as a "Hippo Build", with actual prices that i paid. i did all the labor myself except the cylinder boring, wasn't that hard with a service manual and asking a few questions to the right people. got 98hp and 101 tq with a CV carb w/sporty needle 195 main jet and 46 slow jet, no tuning. waiting for the mukuni 42 for that.
just some food for thought
Dan
SE Pro Heads
627.20
Keith Black Pistons
185.00
SE Adjustable Pushrods
121.38
S&S 570G Gear Drive Cams
522.99
James Gasket Set
55.00
Cometic Head Gaskets .030
43.98
Bored Cylinders
100.00
VPC
237.40
DTT Ignition
$240.00
Feuling Oil Pump
$310.00
Feuling Lifters
$85.00
Total:
2,527.95
just some food for thought
Dan
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