Will PCIII destroy ECM?
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04-06-2006, 08:14 PM
#12
04-06-2006, 08:15 PM
RE: Will PCIII destroy ECM?
ORIGINAL: Mitt
Holy $hit BatMan -
PCIII - SERT -V&H Fuel pack - SE Race Fueler ... Give me a "F-ing" break which is the best friggin tuner for Christ sake ??? Forget the cost parameters - ease of use, reliability, and effectiveness are paramount and to that end which is the best ? I don't want to spend +$300 and find out I got HOSED ...
Holy $hit BatMan -
PCIII - SERT -V&H Fuel pack - SE Race Fueler ... Give me a "F-ing" break which is the best friggin tuner for Christ sake ??? Forget the cost parameters - ease of use, reliability, and effectiveness are paramount and to that end which is the best ? I don't want to spend +$300 and find out I got HOSED ...
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04-06-2006, 08:24 PM
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RE: Will PCIII destroy ECM?
I bought this EFI Controller. Points of adjustment Thundermax (1900), PCIII (279), SERT (159). This replaces the stock Harley ECM and is a much better processing unit. Does not trick stock ECM like the PCIII it replaces it. Price $429.00 Check it out. Do what you want but I think this is the way to go. Others will disagree I'm sure.
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#14
04-06-2006, 08:29 PM
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RE: Will PCIII destroy ECM?
ORIGINAL: sedbiker62
Topper, no flame intended here but I have a Harley Davidson service manager telling me that SERT OR PCIII will void warranty. This Bloomington Indiana dealership is recommending Vance and Hines Fuelpak. I've got yet another dealer in Louisville KY telling customers to go with the SE race fueler. Chances are you could ask 10 different dealers the same question and get a different answer everytime. Unless a person is experienced with tuning or has deep pockets for the dyno time and tech time, my opinion is that the SERT is overkill for the average rider. PCIII is marginally more user friendly, but still requires a laptop interface and dyno time. The SE race fueler requires dyno time to be tuned correctly. The Vance and Hines Fuelpak is plug and play, does not need computer interface, easy to install and would meet the needs of the average rider. Just an observation.
Steve[sm=icon_rock.gif]
Topper, no flame intended here but I have a Harley Davidson service manager telling me that SERT OR PCIII will void warranty. This Bloomington Indiana dealership is recommending Vance and Hines Fuelpak. I've got yet another dealer in Louisville KY telling customers to go with the SE race fueler. Chances are you could ask 10 different dealers the same question and get a different answer everytime. Unless a person is experienced with tuning or has deep pockets for the dyno time and tech time, my opinion is that the SERT is overkill for the average rider. PCIII is marginally more user friendly, but still requires a laptop interface and dyno time. The SE race fueler requires dyno time to be tuned correctly. The Vance and Hines Fuelpak is plug and play, does not need computer interface, easy to install and would meet the needs of the average rider. Just an observation.
Steve[sm=icon_rock.gif]
ORIGINAL: Topper
I run the SERT, my buddy just bought a RG and wanted to save some money and go with the PCIII (also due to the fact the SERT is on backorder) and this was from the horses mouth (Who happens to sell both units)...............
The SERT actually programs the ECM to run within certain peramiters, where a PCIII sends false signals telling the ECM how the bike should run. Also said with the unit having to be mounted on the bike, it could be subject to weather, etc...... Thus if it can't send signals, you may be $hit out of luck on a backroad somewhere.
If a Stealer has the PCIII in stock and could profit right then, yet tells a man to wait on the SERT to come in (Approx. 2 weeks), that in itself, should say a good bit about which one to go with. I personally could care less which you go with, the SERT is about $100 more in most cases, about the same as a tow bill if the PCIII went bad and left you stranded.
Not looking for a flame, SERT vs. PCIII, the above came from a Service Managers mouth, not mine, and I am not a wrench by any means, but really trust this Service Manager, he runs the SERT on his SG also.
Good Luck!
I run the SERT, my buddy just bought a RG and wanted to save some money and go with the PCIII (also due to the fact the SERT is on backorder) and this was from the horses mouth (Who happens to sell both units)...............
The SERT actually programs the ECM to run within certain peramiters, where a PCIII sends false signals telling the ECM how the bike should run. Also said with the unit having to be mounted on the bike, it could be subject to weather, etc...... Thus if it can't send signals, you may be $hit out of luck on a backroad somewhere.
If a Stealer has the PCIII in stock and could profit right then, yet tells a man to wait on the SERT to come in (Approx. 2 weeks), that in itself, should say a good bit about which one to go with. I personally could care less which you go with, the SERT is about $100 more in most cases, about the same as a tow bill if the PCIII went bad and left you stranded.
Not looking for a flame, SERT vs. PCIII, the above came from a Service Managers mouth, not mine, and I am not a wrench by any means, but really trust this Service Manager, he runs the SERT on his SG also.
Good Luck!
The PC is not going to damage your ECM. Our local dealer installs PC units and not SERTs. Probably because he gets a better profit margin.
However, they put a buttload of them on brand new bikes.
Technically no matter what you use you should put the bike on a dyno to properly tune it for your bike. You can come very close with the canned profiles / maps, but nothing will beat one done specifically for your bike.
#15
04-06-2006, 11:00 PM
RE: Will PCIII destroy ECM?
ORIGINAL: Terry1955
<<<<<SNIP>>>>>>&g t;>>>>
The SERT is a genuine Harley Davidson part and will not void the warranty
<<<<<SNIP>>>>>>&g t;>>>>
The SERT is a genuine Harley Davidson part and will not void the warranty
Otherwise known as Not For Street Use
#16
04-06-2006, 11:05 PM
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RE: Will PCIII destroy ECM?
ORIGINAL: Bruce00
Doesn't the SERT have the crossed flags which indicate closed course only?
Otherwise known as Not For Street Use
ORIGINAL: Terry1955
<<<<<SNIP>>>>>>&g t;>>>>
The SERT is a genuine Harley Davidson part and will not void the warranty
<<<<<SNIP>>>>>>&g t;>>>>
The SERT is a genuine Harley Davidson part and will not void the warranty
Otherwise known as Not For Street Use
#17
04-07-2006, 10:12 AM
#20
04-10-2006, 03:30 PM
RE: Will PCIII destroy ECM?
ORIGINAL: foghat
I bought this EFI Controller. Points of adjustment Thundermax (1900), PCIII (279), SERT (159). This replaces the stock Harley ECM and is a much better processing unit. Does not trick stock ECM like the PCIII it replaces it. Price $429.00 Check it out. Do what you want but I think this is the way to go. Others will disagree I'm sure.
Thundermax EFI Controller
I bought this EFI Controller. Points of adjustment Thundermax (1900), PCIII (279), SERT (159). This replaces the stock Harley ECM and is a much better processing unit. Does not trick stock ECM like the PCIII it replaces it. Price $429.00 Check it out. Do what you want but I think this is the way to go. Others will disagree I'm sure.
Thundermax EFI Controller
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