FuelMoto: How about a PCV update?
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#4
Jamie said he has not gotten a PC V yet. Here is some info from Dynojet's website, incase you have not seen it.
http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...formation.aspx
http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...formation.aspx
#5
Man I'm torn now that I hear any such modification will completely void my warranty from MOCO. I paid for 7 years worth of warranty. maybe I won't do the A/C and PC-V after all.
maybe the bike will run lean with mufflers alone, but I''ll still have a warranty.. Wish I knew this all before I decided on HD.
maybe the bike will run lean with mufflers alone, but I''ll still have a warranty.. Wish I knew this all before I decided on HD.
#6
Man I'm torn now that I hear any such modification will completely void my warranty from MOCO. I paid for 7 years worth of warranty. maybe I won't do the A/C and PC-V after all.
maybe the bike will run lean with mufflers alone, but I''ll still have a warranty.. Wish I knew this all before I decided on HD.
maybe the bike will run lean with mufflers alone, but I''ll still have a warranty.. Wish I knew this all before I decided on HD.
#7
Not what I'm hearing if you read other threads. MOCO can tell you modified the EFI and is saying that it voids warranty.
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#8
The dealers install this stuff also. Its also illegal for them to void your warranty. I think its called the Mangneson Moss Act. How can they tell you you modified EFI? The Power Commander just plugs in. Just unplug it and put the wires back on your O2 sensors
#9
You'd be advised to read this entire thread. Apparently MOCO can easily tell as markers are left behind that identify a modification was made. Hearing that MOCO is voiding warranties. I am not taking a chance on this. I will not be making an EFI modification now.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/293779-hd-service-centers-voiding-warranties.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/293779-hd-service-centers-voiding-warranties.html
#10
If a warranty is important to you.... AND (and that is a BIG and) the MOCO is cracking down, then yes, maybe you may wish to pass on ECM enhancements.
GM went this route (until then was teeny bit mod friendly) earlier this year. The problem with GM doing this is... any used Corvette MAY have altered calibrations and voided warranty and a prospective buyer could think, based upon mileage alone, that he/she is buying a vehicle with warranty intact.
That being said... someone will have to show me that a Power Commander, etc. will leave telltale left behinds. ALL automotive type ECM enhancements are done by reprogramming the actual ECM, and people try to put them back to stock... can't do that as tells are left inside the ECM.
A device that is a separate enhancer????? Makes me wonder, right now, why the ECM on 09's are different and why one cannot run a simple XIED?
I am not going to do any program enhancements until this is all hashed out. But, at the same time... I am not ruling it out completely, because any true answers haven't been determined like it ended up being with Vettes.
Why would this issue, though, make you regret purchasing a HD? Really? To you, doesn't it run well enough for you? You CAN do slip-ons and get a better sound without fuel enhancements, you know. Just curious why this is a 'deal breaker' against HD?
Me, if I wanted to keep warranty intact... I also have an 09... why isn't the slip-on route good enough?
GM went this route (until then was teeny bit mod friendly) earlier this year. The problem with GM doing this is... any used Corvette MAY have altered calibrations and voided warranty and a prospective buyer could think, based upon mileage alone, that he/she is buying a vehicle with warranty intact.
That being said... someone will have to show me that a Power Commander, etc. will leave telltale left behinds. ALL automotive type ECM enhancements are done by reprogramming the actual ECM, and people try to put them back to stock... can't do that as tells are left inside the ECM.
A device that is a separate enhancer????? Makes me wonder, right now, why the ECM on 09's are different and why one cannot run a simple XIED?
I am not going to do any program enhancements until this is all hashed out. But, at the same time... I am not ruling it out completely, because any true answers haven't been determined like it ended up being with Vettes.
Why would this issue, though, make you regret purchasing a HD? Really? To you, doesn't it run well enough for you? You CAN do slip-ons and get a better sound without fuel enhancements, you know. Just curious why this is a 'deal breaker' against HD?
Me, if I wanted to keep warranty intact... I also have an 09... why isn't the slip-on route good enough?