Ethanol
#11
04-28-2008, 07:17 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
#12
04-28-2008, 07:35 PM
Cruiser
RE: Ethanol
As others have stated, your mpg will decrease because there is less energy in ethanol compared to straight gasoline.
Ethanol is also more prone to causing vapor lock then straight gasoline.
I have read (yes on the internet) that it takes 500+ pounds of corn to make 13 gallons of ethanol. The corn will feed a child in Mexico for one year.
Ethanol also requires huge amounts of water to produce.
Without taxpayer subsides Ethanol would not exist. It would cost too much. The market place would kill it.
Ethanol is a farm welfare scheme created by politians to help the politianstay in power.
Ethanol is raising the price of all food, because more farm land is being devoted to growing corn to produce more Ethanol.
There is a move in Minnesota, my home state, to increase the minimum percentage of ethanol to 20%. I just love politicians.
OD
Ethanol is also more prone to causing vapor lock then straight gasoline.
I have read (yes on the internet) that it takes 500+ pounds of corn to make 13 gallons of ethanol. The corn will feed a child in Mexico for one year.
Ethanol also requires huge amounts of water to produce.
Without taxpayer subsides Ethanol would not exist. It would cost too much. The market place would kill it.
Ethanol is a farm welfare scheme created by politians to help the politianstay in power.
Ethanol is raising the price of all food, because more farm land is being devoted to growing corn to produce more Ethanol.
There is a move in Minnesota, my home state, to increase the minimum percentage of ethanol to 20%. I just love politicians.
OD
#13
04-28-2008, 07:42 PM
RE: Ethanol
Nearly all the gas around here has been 10% ethenol for many years....last fall my bone stock 08 Ultra was getting 44-46 mpg on it....now after stage-1 its down to about 38. I don't have a problem burning it other than I don't agree with ethenol as the "solution" to our gas problems. I think the government needs to get there collective heads out of their *** and start approving some new refineries, new drilling policy, coal gasification and a whole lot of other stuff. Using food to make fuel is definitely not the right answer.
#14
04-28-2008, 07:59 PM
RE: Ethanol
ORIGINAL: OD_Cleaver
As others have stated, your mpg will decrease because there is less energy in ethanol compared to straight gasoline.
Ethanol is also more prone to causing vapor lock then straight gasoline.
I have read (yes on the internet) that it takes 500+ pounds of corn to make 13 gallons of ethanol. The corn will feed a child in Mexico for one year.
Ethanol also requires huge amounts of water to produce.
Without taxpayer subsides Ethanol would not exist. It would cost too much. The market place would kill it.
Ethanol is a farm welfare scheme created by politians to help the politianstay in power.
Ethanol is raising the price of all food, because more farm land is being devoted to growing corn to produce more Ethanol.
There is a move in Minnesota, my home state, to increase the minimum percentage of ethanol to 20%. I just love politicians.
OD
As others have stated, your mpg will decrease because there is less energy in ethanol compared to straight gasoline.
Ethanol is also more prone to causing vapor lock then straight gasoline.
I have read (yes on the internet) that it takes 500+ pounds of corn to make 13 gallons of ethanol. The corn will feed a child in Mexico for one year.
Ethanol also requires huge amounts of water to produce.
Without taxpayer subsides Ethanol would not exist. It would cost too much. The market place would kill it.
Ethanol is a farm welfare scheme created by politians to help the politianstay in power.
Ethanol is raising the price of all food, because more farm land is being devoted to growing corn to produce more Ethanol.
There is a move in Minnesota, my home state, to increase the minimum percentage of ethanol to 20%. I just love politicians.
OD
#15
04-28-2008, 08:00 PM
RE: Ethanol
ORIGINAL: Windup08
Nearly all the gas around here has been 10% ethenol for many years....last fall my bone stock 08 Ultra was getting 44-46 mpg on it....now after stage-1 its down to about 38. I don't have a problem burning it other than I don't agree with ethenol as the "solution" to our gas problems. I think the government needs to get there collective heads out of their *** and start approving some new refineries, new drilling policy, coal gasification and a whole lot of other stuff. Using food to make fuel is definitely not the right answer.
Nearly all the gas around here has been 10% ethenol for many years....last fall my bone stock 08 Ultra was getting 44-46 mpg on it....now after stage-1 its down to about 38. I don't have a problem burning it other than I don't agree with ethenol as the "solution" to our gas problems. I think the government needs to get there collective heads out of their *** and start approving some new refineries, new drilling policy, coal gasification and a whole lot of other stuff. Using food to make fuel is definitely not the right answer.
#16
04-28-2008, 08:04 PM
RE: Ethanol
As long as we're discussing what fuel we should run, Here's a question for you.
I was told today thatthe use of Sunoco Gasoline was not recommended in your Harley Davidson. Supposedly, this is due to a high ash content in this particular brand.
I heard this a couple of years ago andwrote it off as BS. But now I've heard it again, from another source...and I still think it is BS...but, has anyone else heard this or anything simular?
I have run it for years in my bikes and cages with no problems.
I was told today thatthe use of Sunoco Gasoline was not recommended in your Harley Davidson. Supposedly, this is due to a high ash content in this particular brand.
I heard this a couple of years ago andwrote it off as BS. But now I've heard it again, from another source...and I still think it is BS...but, has anyone else heard this or anything simular?
I have run it for years in my bikes and cages with no problems.
#19
04-28-2008, 08:13 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
RE: Ethanol
ORIGINAL: gs34doc
As long as we're discussing what fuel we should run, Here's a question for you.
I was told today thatthe use of Sunoco Gasoline was not recommended in your Harley Davidson. Supposedly, this is due to a high ash content in this particular brand.
I heard this a couple of years ago andwrote it off as BS. But now I've heard it again, from another source...and I still think it is BS...but, has anyone else heard this or anything simular?
I have run it for years in my bikes and cages with no problems.
As long as we're discussing what fuel we should run, Here's a question for you.
I was told today thatthe use of Sunoco Gasoline was not recommended in your Harley Davidson. Supposedly, this is due to a high ash content in this particular brand.
I heard this a couple of years ago andwrote it off as BS. But now I've heard it again, from another source...and I still think it is BS...but, has anyone else heard this or anything simular?
I have run it for years in my bikes and cages with no problems.
#20
04-28-2008, 08:23 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
RE: Ethanol
ORIGINAL: SG 1
Do you know how long it takes to build a refinery? This country (WE) need to start now!
Do you know how long it takes to build a refinery? This country (WE) need to start now!