Engine crash bar as oil cooler?
#111
The limiting factor is the size (efficiency) of the oil cooler. 250 degree oil going into the same size (efficiency) oil cooler as 200 degree oil is not going to cool to a lower tempature than the 200 degree oil after it exits the cooler.
The same reason that the radiator on my 440 Dodge was much larger than the radiator on the same car equiped with a 225.
What matters is the oil tempature when it goes back into the engine. The engine doesnt know where or how it was cooled.
What makes the crash bar such a good (efficient) cooler is that it increases oil capacity by more than a quart, has a larger cooling area, (about 220sq in I estimate), and it keeps the oil out of the engine for a longer period of time.
Your question doesnt make sense to me. The bottom line is how hot or cool the oil is when it returns to the engine for another cycle of lubrication and cooling.
It doesnt matter if the oil went through the filter only, or a HD oil cooler, or the crash bar, it also doesnt matter where the pickup for the cooler is.
Once the engine and oil are up to the recommended operating tempature, the lower the oil tempature, the more efficently it will do its job.
Over the past several years HD has made alot of changes. Cats in the exhaust, larger engines, higher capacity oil pumps, 5 micron oil filters, FI, electronic engine management to name a few. Comparisons need to be made on the same year and model bike to be valid.
The same reason that the radiator on my 440 Dodge was much larger than the radiator on the same car equiped with a 225.
What matters is the oil tempature when it goes back into the engine. The engine doesnt know where or how it was cooled.
What makes the crash bar such a good (efficient) cooler is that it increases oil capacity by more than a quart, has a larger cooling area, (about 220sq in I estimate), and it keeps the oil out of the engine for a longer period of time.
Your question doesnt make sense to me. The bottom line is how hot or cool the oil is when it returns to the engine for another cycle of lubrication and cooling.
It doesnt matter if the oil went through the filter only, or a HD oil cooler, or the crash bar, it also doesnt matter where the pickup for the cooler is.
Once the engine and oil are up to the recommended operating tempature, the lower the oil tempature, the more efficently it will do its job.
Over the past several years HD has made alot of changes. Cats in the exhaust, larger engines, higher capacity oil pumps, 5 micron oil filters, FI, electronic engine management to name a few. Comparisons need to be made on the same year and model bike to be valid.
#112
Fabrik8r,
I pulled the double hum cover off. Road for about an hour out side temp 85f, pulled over in Tavern, VA the temp of the hose going into the motor was 195f . I then drove Warrington, VA Out side temp was 89f at mostly 65mph pulled over and let the motor idel for 5 minutes the return oil hose was 197f . Every time temps every time I stopped and the temps varied + - 5f.
Those two old grey beard guys on RoadGlides that told me to do this knew what they were talking about.
I'm not going to replace the double hump cover so I can keep checking the return hose temp. I'm interested to see the temps when its over 100f out side.
I no longer feel the need for an oil pain temp gauge.
Y'all have a great week .
Phillip
I pulled the double hum cover off. Road for about an hour out side temp 85f, pulled over in Tavern, VA the temp of the hose going into the motor was 195f . I then drove Warrington, VA Out side temp was 89f at mostly 65mph pulled over and let the motor idel for 5 minutes the return oil hose was 197f . Every time temps every time I stopped and the temps varied + - 5f.
Those two old grey beard guys on RoadGlides that told me to do this knew what they were talking about.
I'm not going to replace the double hump cover so I can keep checking the return hose temp. I'm interested to see the temps when its over 100f out side.
I no longer feel the need for an oil pain temp gauge.
Y'all have a great week .
Phillip
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