The Great Debate ??
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01-22-2006, 02:54 PM
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The Great Debate ??
Well Here is the Dilema it is time to select my pipes for my new Street glide and I have read and read and still confused on which pipe to go with. I have at lease narrowed it down to 2 Pipes Either the Thunder Header 2 into 1 or the Rinehart True Duels. I have read Pros & Cons for Both Pipes and was curious if anyone has done a side by side comparison on a Dyno to see what Pipe performs better and how the Torque/ HP Curves look.
My Bike will be done in 2 Phases where the first Phase will be The Pipes , SE Air Cleaner , And SE Race Tuner Tuning. Second Phase will be the full 95 Kit which will include Cyclinders Bored , New Pistons & Rings, Heads Ported Polished and Flowed , Woods Twin Gear Cams Installed, Adj Push Rods, Dyno Tune , Ect.
Does anyone have a SE Map that they can Emial me that would handle the FIrst Phase ReMap with either the Thunder Header or Rineharts
I am baised towards the Thunder Header as I have had them on my last 2 EVO's . I like the Looks of the Rineharts and everyone seem to rave about them. I read there is a drop out on the HP/ Torque Curve with the rineharts. I also see you can get diffferent baffles and Rinehart is coming with a redesigned pipe in the near Future. If I go with the Rineharts any benefit to the ordering a differant baffle.
I will posting pics From Beginning to end and will share the Dyno info once I get it done
Help Help Help !!
Thx
MPP
My Bike will be done in 2 Phases where the first Phase will be The Pipes , SE Air Cleaner , And SE Race Tuner Tuning. Second Phase will be the full 95 Kit which will include Cyclinders Bored , New Pistons & Rings, Heads Ported Polished and Flowed , Woods Twin Gear Cams Installed, Adj Push Rods, Dyno Tune , Ect.
Does anyone have a SE Map that they can Emial me that would handle the FIrst Phase ReMap with either the Thunder Header or Rineharts
I am baised towards the Thunder Header as I have had them on my last 2 EVO's . I like the Looks of the Rineharts and everyone seem to rave about them. I read there is a drop out on the HP/ Torque Curve with the rineharts. I also see you can get diffferent baffles and Rinehart is coming with a redesigned pipe in the near Future. If I go with the Rineharts any benefit to the ordering a differant baffle.
I will posting pics From Beginning to end and will share the Dyno info once I get it done
Help Help Help !!
Thx
MPP
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01-22-2006, 03:00 PM
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01-22-2006, 03:37 PM
RE: The Great Debate ??
Thunderheaders are almost without equal in the torque area and are easier to tune than the rineharts and cost a little less since they have been on the market longer. You can go with the traditional 2 into 1 or the left side falsie if you need to maintain the dual look. In any case all Thunderheaders are 2 into 1 systems.
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01-23-2006, 02:51 AM
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01-23-2006, 03:05 AM
RE: The Great Debate ??
I admit that the thunderheader is probably a better pipe for torque and hp but I just don't like the way it looks on a bagger. I love my rineharts. I noticed an increase in power immediately and have had no problems with mine. I have not yet seen the new ones but I thought they were already out.
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RE: The Great Debate ??
Either one will do well for you, it just depends on the look you like better.
My neighbor has an 06 SG and he put the Thunderheader on it. It sounds good, I just don't like the look of it. I just recently put on a set of Rineharts and I absolutely love them...I haven't asked my neighbor what he thinks...I don't care.
As far as the re-design on the TruDuals, all they did was change a hard mount to a clamp mount. The old hard mount on the rear pipe would break causing a hole in the pipe which then had to be welded. They basically removed that mounting tab and use a clamp to hold it in place. The dealer actually did this on my pipes before install.
My neighbor has an 06 SG and he put the Thunderheader on it. It sounds good, I just don't like the look of it. I just recently put on a set of Rineharts and I absolutely love them...I haven't asked my neighbor what he thinks...I don't care.
As far as the re-design on the TruDuals, all they did was change a hard mount to a clamp mount. The old hard mount on the rear pipe would break causing a hole in the pipe which then had to be welded. They basically removed that mounting tab and use a clamp to hold it in place. The dealer actually did this on my pipes before install.
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Well Here is the Dilema it is time to select my pipes for my new Street glide and I have read and read and still confused on which pipe to go with. I have at lease narrowed it down to 2 Pipes Either the Thunder Header 2 into 1 or the Rinehart True Duels. I have read Pros & Cons for Both Pipes and was curious if anyone has done a side by side comparison on a Dyno to see what Pipe performs better and how the Torque/ HP Curves look.
My Bike will be done in 2 Phases where the first Phase will be The Pipes , SE Air Cleaner , And SE Race Tuner Tuning. Second Phase will be the full 95 Kit which will include Cyclinders Bored , New Pistons & Rings, Heads Ported Polished and Flowed , Woods Twin Gear Cams Installed, Adj Push Rods, Dyno Tune , Ect.
Does anyone have a SE Map that they can Emial me that would handle the FIrst Phase ReMap with either the Thunder Header or Rineharts
I am baised towards the Thunder Header as I have had them on my last 2 EVO's . I like the Looks of the Rineharts and everyone seem to rave about them. I read there is a drop out on the HP/ Torque Curve with the rineharts. I also see you can get diffferent baffles and Rinehart is coming with a redesigned pipe in the near Future. If I go with the Rineharts any benefit to the ordering a differant baffle.
I will posting pics From Beginning to end and will share the Dyno info once I get it done
Help Help Help !!
Thx
MPP
Well Here is the Dilema it is time to select my pipes for my new Street glide and I have read and read and still confused on which pipe to go with. I have at lease narrowed it down to 2 Pipes Either the Thunder Header 2 into 1 or the Rinehart True Duels. I have read Pros & Cons for Both Pipes and was curious if anyone has done a side by side comparison on a Dyno to see what Pipe performs better and how the Torque/ HP Curves look.
My Bike will be done in 2 Phases where the first Phase will be The Pipes , SE Air Cleaner , And SE Race Tuner Tuning. Second Phase will be the full 95 Kit which will include Cyclinders Bored , New Pistons & Rings, Heads Ported Polished and Flowed , Woods Twin Gear Cams Installed, Adj Push Rods, Dyno Tune , Ect.
Does anyone have a SE Map that they can Emial me that would handle the FIrst Phase ReMap with either the Thunder Header or Rineharts
I am baised towards the Thunder Header as I have had them on my last 2 EVO's . I like the Looks of the Rineharts and everyone seem to rave about them. I read there is a drop out on the HP/ Torque Curve with the rineharts. I also see you can get diffferent baffles and Rinehart is coming with a redesigned pipe in the near Future. If I go with the Rineharts any benefit to the ordering a differant baffle.
I will posting pics From Beginning to end and will share the Dyno info once I get it done
Help Help Help !!
Thx
MPP
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01-23-2006, 06:07 PM
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01-23-2006, 10:25 PM
RE: The Great Debate ??
I think I read just what Bruce did... Expert tuner claims he can get much more power out of a 2 into 1 setup than true duals. Faking the other side was his recommendation...
As for the physics behind this, well they were there, but it's easier to remember the end result than the specifics...
As for the physics behind this, well they were there, but it's easier to remember the end result than the specifics...
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