At this point I already returned it to Harley so I said "*** it " You guys want to laugh some more I did installed one on my old fat boy and it was a pain but no more than maybe 1/2 hour and it was there for 12k miles till I sold the bike. It is on this pict you can't see it because of the exhaust..[sm=bling.gif]

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