Who cares about bearings?
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RE: Who cares about bearings?
ORIGINAL: tallboy56
OK, I hear you guys regarding "lugging" and I understand....what I don't understand is 2000 rpm considered lugging. Now, I ain't got a bike yet but I've ridden many(non-Harley) and I think 2000 would be "mid range", especially with the displacement the Harleys have divided amongst two cylinders. What is a "stock" idle rpm? What would be considered "redline"? Just curious...learn me somethin'.....
OK, I hear you guys regarding "lugging" and I understand....what I don't understand is 2000 rpm considered lugging. Now, I ain't got a bike yet but I've ridden many(non-Harley) and I think 2000 would be "mid range", especially with the displacement the Harleys have divided amongst two cylinders. What is a "stock" idle rpm? What would be considered "redline"? Just curious...learn me somethin'.....
"By 'lugging,' we mean that the engine is struggling to accelerate. How would you know it's struggling? Because when you step on the gas to accelerate, it doesn't go faster. It might bog down, it might buck, it might lurch. And you might get noises from the engine, like pinging or knocking. If any of those things are happening, you're going too slowly to be in fifth gear, and you need to downshift."
Since it is nearly impossible to cause a modern [healthy] Harley engine to knock, ping or buck at 2000 RPM, the only possible way to have the engine struggle to accelrate is in top gear while pulling a trailer up a very steep incline. Otherwise, that bike is not going to have much trouble accelerating.
To answer your other questions: idle is typically between 950-1050 on my twin cam, and redline is 5500.
#52
RE: Who cares about bearings?
ORIGINAL: murphyslaw1978
There is not a chance in hell that running at 2,000 RPM will cause bearing damage in any Harley engine, period. Many people run much lower than that and much higher than that on a regular basis and don't have any problems. Lugging will simply not occur at that speed if the engine is healthy.
There is not a chance in hell that running at 2,000 RPM will cause bearing damage in any Harley engine, period. Many people run much lower than that and much higher than that on a regular basis and don't have any problems. Lugging will simply not occur at that speed if the engine is healthy.
The magazine also used this as a reason not to use the engine for braking, citing that brake pads are cheaper than engine components, and you should use your brakes instead of the engine by downshifting to stop the vehicle.
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#56
RE: Who cares about bearings?
Thanks...2000 is not too far from mid range I guess. When I drive one of my vehicles that are manual transmission I won't let them lug either. If they accelerate without straining it's ok. I have a friend that has one of them Yammeehaw 1600 twin bikes with the pushrods and it came with a rev limiter set at 4300(?). That doesn't seem like a wide range of revs to me but it gets the job done...
ORIGINAL: murphyslaw1978
The following is taken from "Car Talk":
"By 'lugging,' we mean that the engine is struggling to accelerate. How would you know it's struggling? Because when you step on the gas to accelerate, it doesn't go faster. It might bog down, it might buck, it might lurch. And you might get noises from the engine, like pinging or knocking. If any of those things are happening, you're going too slowly to be in fifth gear, and you need to downshift."
Since it is nearly impossible to cause a modern [healthy] Harley engine to knock, ping or buck at 2000 RPM, the only possible way to have the engine struggle to accelrate is in top gear while pulling a trailer up a very steep incline. Otherwise, that bike is not going to have much trouble accelerating.
To answer your other questions: idle is typically between 950-1050 on my twin cam, and redline is 5500.
ORIGINAL: tallboy56
OK, I hear you guys regarding "lugging" and I understand....what I don't understand is 2000 rpm considered lugging. Now, I ain't got a bike yet but I've ridden many(non-Harley) and I think 2000 would be "mid range", especially with the displacement the Harleys have divided amongst two cylinders. What is a "stock" idle rpm? What would be considered "redline"? Just curious...learn me somethin'.....
OK, I hear you guys regarding "lugging" and I understand....what I don't understand is 2000 rpm considered lugging. Now, I ain't got a bike yet but I've ridden many(non-Harley) and I think 2000 would be "mid range", especially with the displacement the Harleys have divided amongst two cylinders. What is a "stock" idle rpm? What would be considered "redline"? Just curious...learn me somethin'.....
"By 'lugging,' we mean that the engine is struggling to accelerate. How would you know it's struggling? Because when you step on the gas to accelerate, it doesn't go faster. It might bog down, it might buck, it might lurch. And you might get noises from the engine, like pinging or knocking. If any of those things are happening, you're going too slowly to be in fifth gear, and you need to downshift."
Since it is nearly impossible to cause a modern [healthy] Harley engine to knock, ping or buck at 2000 RPM, the only possible way to have the engine struggle to accelrate is in top gear while pulling a trailer up a very steep incline. Otherwise, that bike is not going to have much trouble accelerating.
To answer your other questions: idle is typically between 950-1050 on my twin cam, and redline is 5500.
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