Hesitation on 08' FBW throttle
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RE: Hesitation on 08' FBW throttle
A friend of mine owns a high end boat shop.. he went to a recent school for these boats and they now ALSO have FBW throttles. he was told it has to do with..... yep, them good ole' boys.. the EPA. Seems the EPA doesn't like it when you can go WFO and dump a lot of gas into the jugs to aggressively accelerate.
So I have no idea if this is also perhaps a EPA thingy.. but, stranger things have happened.
So I have no idea if this is also perhaps a EPA thingy.. but, stranger things have happened.
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RE: Hesitation on 08' FBW throttle
Jinks....Yeah, if I touch the brakes cruise disengages as you would expect, but having to roll the right grip what feels like a half turn to get some acceleration above my cruise speed does take a little getting used to. It really surprised me the first time I used the cruise because I felt like I kept turning and turning and nothing was happening, but once I hit the throttle position where I would normally be holding it to ride at that speed under manual control, then it started responding. Actually it didn't take much to get used to, but really felt wierd the first few times. When I release the throttle the bike returns to my cruise control setting.
Wow, you just described my only complaint with my RG. I never rode a bike with CC before so I had no idea what to expect.I have NO slack in throttle at all, it feels as good or better than my cablebikes and I would talk to my dealer again.
Wow, you just described my only complaint with my RG. I never rode a bike with CC before so I had no idea what to expect.I have NO slack in throttle at all, it feels as good or better than my cablebikes and I would talk to my dealer again.
#27
RE: Hesitation on 08' FBW throttle
On a cabled bike, turning the throttle counterclockwise while cruise is engaged disengages cruise. If you have to turn the throttle clockwise on an '08 to catch up and accelerate from cruise, does that indicate turning the throttle counterclockwiseafter settingcruise on an '08 doesn't disengage the cruise control? That was a long sentence.
#28
RE: Hesitation on 08' FBW throttle
peddler....I think maybe you have the directions reversed, counter-clockwise is your normal accelleration direction, clockwise is backing off the throttle. I don't think you can turn it clockwise when cruise is on as the throttle grip is all the way back at the normal zero throttle position, or all the way shut down. I assume you have to increase the throttle position past your cruising speed to get more speed beyond that where the cruise control was set. The only way to shut off cruise is to hit the brakes, or I assume, just shut off the switch. On my Dyna I had the old twisting-screw style throttle lock, to get more speed you just twisted the throttle a little more....on the Ultra you have to twist a lot more just to increase speed a few mph. Just kind of a funny feeling, but it didn't take long to get used to.
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RE: Hesitation on 08' FBW throttle
The delay encountered from idle is there on all the FBW bikes. Very minute and really depends on the rider habits (way of throttle usage) Most riders "goose up just a little" before releasing the clutch so the delay actually catches up to the clutch action and therefor it not noticed or felt but, if you use the gas and clutch as you would in a car you will probably feel the delay. Hence no goosing of the gas from idle just throttle the same time releasing the clutch. I have tested this on a couple of bikes making sure not to goose the throttleand have actually stalled the bikes because of the delay. If I ride normally, I don't even notice the delay. In fact you can easly overcome the delay with just a little practice.
I'm not an expert in this field but as I've owned various vehicles with electronic throttles and controls I have become aware of the delays due to "pots and receivers and such" No actual mechanical movement of parts for that real "do it now" action. Many of todays cars also have the wired throttle.. a spring is also installed to give you resistance in the peddle making you feel like you have a cable.
I'm not an expert in this field but as I've owned various vehicles with electronic throttles and controls I have become aware of the delays due to "pots and receivers and such" No actual mechanical movement of parts for that real "do it now" action. Many of todays cars also have the wired throttle.. a spring is also installed to give you resistance in the peddle making you feel like you have a cable.