J&S Lift
#21
10-26-2007, 08:42 PM
RE: J&S Lift
I don't have to jocky around my bike using the J&S jack to make 180 turns! One wheel (fixed) stays in place while the other fixed wheel makes the circle! Of course my garage floor is smooth!
I still don't have the guts to climb up on the bike while it up on the jack.. Takes some (uh-hu's) to do that.
I do like the extra long narrow lift rails of the jack.. makes it easy to get into position without worry of just setting on the edge of the frame. Also, like the fact the rail fits within the bikes crossmember.
Very well opened up also so the oil drain is easy to get to without obstruction..
Besides lifting a motorcycle, it came in handy as a dolly to move and lift my old hotwater tank to the truck bed.
I still don't have the guts to climb up on the bike while it up on the jack.. Takes some (uh-hu's) to do that.
I do like the extra long narrow lift rails of the jack.. makes it easy to get into position without worry of just setting on the edge of the frame. Also, like the fact the rail fits within the bikes crossmember.
Very well opened up also so the oil drain is easy to get to without obstruction..
Besides lifting a motorcycle, it came in handy as a dolly to move and lift my old hotwater tank to the truck bed.
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10-26-2007, 09:02 PM
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RE: J&S Lift
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I was not saying that it was hard to spin the bike around, however, jackja parks his bike on 2 pieces of plywood (unknown size 4x8?). Based on his post I was thinking that he was expecting to turn the bike 180 on a dime. This is not possible with a fixed wheel and a caster set up. Don't get me wrong it will spin, however it will not spin in a tight circle. The J&S jack will spin like a rear wheel drive car doing donuts (center point of circle would be the fixed wheel). Where if it had 4 caster wheels the center point would be the center point between the 4 wheels.
Think of a compass (the thing / tool that draws perfect circles). Set it at 2" and you will get a 4" circle because one end is a pencil and the other is a fixed point (like a fixed wheel and a caster wheel set up). Make both ends a pencil on a compass and set it at 2" and the circle will be 2" when you spin it (like having an all caster wheel set up, results a tighter circle).
Just trying to paint an accurate picture of the jack. It is a great jack, however it is not limitless and I want to make sure Jackja has the correct information before making the purchase (as he indicated that his reason to buy the jack was to spin his bike 180 degrees on two pieces of plywood). Don't get me wrong, I love the jack, however I know what my expectations are, but I do not know what Jackja's are and I would like him to be as informed as possible before his purchase.
I was not saying that it was hard to spin the bike around, however, jackja parks his bike on 2 pieces of plywood (unknown size 4x8?). Based on his post I was thinking that he was expecting to turn the bike 180 on a dime. This is not possible with a fixed wheel and a caster set up. Don't get me wrong it will spin, however it will not spin in a tight circle. The J&S jack will spin like a rear wheel drive car doing donuts (center point of circle would be the fixed wheel). Where if it had 4 caster wheels the center point would be the center point between the 4 wheels.
Think of a compass (the thing / tool that draws perfect circles). Set it at 2" and you will get a 4" circle because one end is a pencil and the other is a fixed point (like a fixed wheel and a caster wheel set up). Make both ends a pencil on a compass and set it at 2" and the circle will be 2" when you spin it (like having an all caster wheel set up, results a tighter circle).
Just trying to paint an accurate picture of the jack. It is a great jack, however it is not limitless and I want to make sure Jackja has the correct information before making the purchase (as he indicated that his reason to buy the jack was to spin his bike 180 degrees on two pieces of plywood). Don't get me wrong, I love the jack, however I know what my expectations are, but I do not know what Jackja's are and I would like him to be as informed as possible before his purchase.
#25
03-11-2010, 08:40 AM
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My J&S lifts came in today. I ordered 2. 1 for me and 1 for a guy at work. Guy at work works days and I work nights. Needless to say I got a call tonight at 8pm when he opened his up. He was impressed with the quality and was happy that his bike cleaning and storage had just been made easier. I was happy to hear this because he jumped in on my order because I told him that it sounded like the best jack for the money. I encouraged him to do his own research, but he trusted that I researched good enough.
I got home at 1230am (got out of work late....had to watch the Red Sox win game 2). The jack was packaged nicely and the box weighed 88 lbs. When I opened the side of the box, the jack rolled out easy. I was surprised to see a free knit skull cap (came with both lifts) with the company's logo. I opened the directions and no pictures. So if you are a person who needs visual aides don't worry.... it was easy to put together. Lift the rails (part bike rests on) up so that the bottle jack fits on the slant (two bolts). By lifting the rail, it raises the part that goes on top of the bottle jack. After the part is secured to the top of the botle jack you tighten the two bolts (securing it to the 45 degree slant) and then entend the spring onto the welded bold. This lifts the jack handle back up when you step on it to lift the bottle jack. Time to test it out.
My RG is lowered so I had to put a 2x4 under the kickstand to fit the lift under the bike. The lift comes with directions on where to put the lift under certian bikes. I used the location suggested for Road Kings and EGs. The bike raised and lowered with ease. The foot pump/ lever felt flimzy when I pushed down on it with my foot, however it moved with ease, and upon inspection just has play due to the spring.
My garage is pitched towards the garage door and the lift wanted to roll towards the garage door. Thats when I discovered that the lift had two bolts that screwed down (to the floor) to stop the lift from moving. The bolts move up and down easy with your finngers. The bike rolled around with ease while on the lift. The frame is rigid however does tweak slightly when you start to climb/ push on either far end of the bike. Note the frame tweaks forward or back, however the bike does not lift off the rails it is resting on nor do the wheels of the lift off the ground.
I am happy to say that my first impression of this jack is that I was impressed. Another thing I liked was the customer service. I spoke with one of the owners several times about questions I had that were not answered on the web site. He took his time with me and took my order over the phone.
Based on my 1st couple of hours with the jack, I would recommend this jack to anyone. I was told that if the jack did not suit my needs they would take it back and that it comes with a lifetime warranty.
Is it more than the Sears and Lowes jack ......yup! But after seeing how sturdy my $13.5 K 2004 HD Road glide was on it with out straps.....I would spend the extra $200 + for a quality heavy duty US made lift again in a heart beat. I hope this product review is helpful to some of you who are wondering what lift to buy.
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I got home at 1230am (got out of work late....had to watch the Red Sox win game 2). The jack was packaged nicely and the box weighed 88 lbs. When I opened the side of the box, the jack rolled out easy. I was surprised to see a free knit skull cap (came with both lifts) with the company's logo. I opened the directions and no pictures. So if you are a person who needs visual aides don't worry.... it was easy to put together. Lift the rails (part bike rests on) up so that the bottle jack fits on the slant (two bolts). By lifting the rail, it raises the part that goes on top of the bottle jack. After the part is secured to the top of the botle jack you tighten the two bolts (securing it to the 45 degree slant) and then entend the spring onto the welded bold. This lifts the jack handle back up when you step on it to lift the bottle jack. Time to test it out.
My RG is lowered so I had to put a 2x4 under the kickstand to fit the lift under the bike. The lift comes with directions on where to put the lift under certian bikes. I used the location suggested for Road Kings and EGs. The bike raised and lowered with ease. The foot pump/ lever felt flimzy when I pushed down on it with my foot, however it moved with ease, and upon inspection just has play due to the spring.
My garage is pitched towards the garage door and the lift wanted to roll towards the garage door. Thats when I discovered that the lift had two bolts that screwed down (to the floor) to stop the lift from moving. The bolts move up and down easy with your finngers. The bike rolled around with ease while on the lift. The frame is rigid however does tweak slightly when you start to climb/ push on either far end of the bike. Note the frame tweaks forward or back, however the bike does not lift off the rails it is resting on nor do the wheels of the lift off the ground.
I am happy to say that my first impression of this jack is that I was impressed. Another thing I liked was the customer service. I spoke with one of the owners several times about questions I had that were not answered on the web site. He took his time with me and took my order over the phone.
Based on my 1st couple of hours with the jack, I would recommend this jack to anyone. I was told that if the jack did not suit my needs they would take it back and that it comes with a lifetime warranty.
Is it more than the Sears and Lowes jack ......yup! But after seeing how sturdy my $13.5 K 2004 HD Road glide was on it with out straps.....I would spend the extra $200 + for a quality heavy duty US made lift again in a heart beat. I hope this product review is helpful to some of you who are wondering what lift to buy.
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#26
03-11-2010, 10:53 AM
#27
03-11-2010, 11:43 AM
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best value quality jack out there, pit bull makes a lot of claims and is a nice jack but they do not stand behind theirs like J & S does, had mine a few years and it works as they advertise it will, my buddy saw mine and bought one with the oil pan and loves it, he rides into his garage gets off puts the lift under it, does a 360, rolls it against the wall, next ride he pulls it of from the wall lowers the lift and rides off
#28
01-06-2013, 09:53 AM
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J&S on a 2012 Fat Boy
I'm asking anyone with a Softail (I have a 2012 Fat Boy) to post some pictures (or explanation) of how the rails of the J&S jack fit under the frame, and whether you need the rubber lift pads to so the weight of the bike isn't on the shocks. I've read a lot about this issue, but can't picture how the rails fit under the bike.
What is the collased height of the jack if I need to use the lift pad? I have
4 3/8" distance from floor to frame at the lowest point.
What is the collased height of the jack if I need to use the lift pad? I have
4 3/8" distance from floor to frame at the lowest point.
#29
01-06-2013, 10:31 AM
Road Master
#30
01-06-2013, 10:32 AM
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my wifes Heritage is lowered 2'' front and rear , I have to roll it up on some 1'' boards, all I do is put it as far forward by the shock mounts as I can get it and still be under the flat part of the frame in the front , I plan on getting the lifting blocks one of these days , I think it would be better